Hyper carry vayne?

Alüe·May 10, 2016·4 votes·901 views

Anyone else notice the damage spike with vayne this previous patch? seems like hyper carry vayne is back in full force...

15 Comments

Tyrone LannisterMay 10, 20161 votes

As compared to what? She hasnt changed at all

AlüeMay 10, 20161 votes

rageblade seems to have given her a damage spike with the on hit passive applying twice....

Tyrone LannisterMay 10, 20162 votes

Rageblade is such a bad item and never an item you should build first.

Thurst28May 10, 20161 votes

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Rageblade is such a bad item and never an item you should build first.

HA!!!!

Tyrone LannisterMay 10, 20162 votes

It is. Its not cost efficient anymore

BluePolarizerMay 10, 20161 votes

rageblade on Vayne is trash. It deals less damage than a BORK, IE or even Triforce.

Thurst28May 10, 20161 votes

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rageblade on Vayne is trash. It deals less damage than a BORK, IE or even Triforce.

The item it self may but the True damage proc you get from it makes her super strong. I just got out of a game as Vayne Jung and holy fuck cakes. I suck at Vayne and i still was winning fights i had no business in. Got a quad kill too. AND I AM SUPER TRASH AT ADC/Marksmen in general. I laugh watching Sion died in like 8 autos then Sona in 4 then Kinder and Talon in 4 as well. It is a Joke Twitch only got away due to stealth. And this was a 5v3. Rageblade will be as much cancer to the game on Vayne as item 3147 will be with Burst assassins. Just like it was on the Talon who would blow me up before I could Blink that game. Did I mention how bad I am at ADCs like Vayne. They took Sated D out of the game due to similar stuff. Even with the tiny ramp up it takes for Rageblade this item is OP on her. Maybe not on everyone but any Champ that will reduce auto count to proc passive will be pretty big. Example (Never tried these champs just off the top of my head) XinZhao More 3rd auto heals Ashe Faster ramp up to Ranger focus and maybe more arrows flying. Jax More Ult Passive damage. Kindred Hunters Vigor stack. The list can go on. Any champ that has auto procs will have them reduce significantly. You may lose out on some damage if you don't use AP&AD but these procs will very possibly help you more then hurt you. Like they do with Vayne.

FUN FACT item 3124 53AD, 48% AS, 15 Magic DMG per auto (At full Ramp up) item 3153 25AD. 40% AS, 6% Current health

Not sure how you figure BorK does more DMG but from the looks of that and the Double True damage you get from Rageblade. I'm gone very confidently go out on a limb and say you are wrong. They only thing you are losing is life steal, but you won't need because they will all be dead.

Zane ZephyrMay 10, 20161 votes

I've played against 3-4 vaynes recently and have shat on every single one.

Mysticman89May 10, 20161 votes

Theres some shenanigans in the recent patch both with rageblade builds (which is still a questionable build due to the need to stack it before teamfights and the slump as you build it and get nothing from blasting wand), and I've also heard of shenanigans with adc's (including vayne) taking smite and getting bloodrazor as a relatively cheap AS+%HP item.

I'm not sure she's really that much scarier than before though, there's just a better defined spike.

Critmaster GarenMay 10, 20161 votes

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Theres some shenanigans in the recent patch both with rageblade builds (which is still a questionable build due to the need to stack it before teamfights and the slump as you build it and get nothing from blasting wand), and I've also heard of shenanigans with adc's (including vayne) taking smite and getting bloodrazor as a relatively cheap AS+%HP item.

I'm not sure she's really that much scarier than before though, there's just a better defined spike.

its not hard to stack for a ranged champion. much more difficult for a melee who has it harder to keep his opponent in auto range.

Thurst28May 10, 20161 votes

Now that item 3124 procs her true damage on second auto it's insane. It's broke as fuck. When she can run summoner 4 summoner 11 bot lane to get item 1419 or item 1416 shit is wrong. She doesn't need summoner 7 because you won't get close enough to her. So now she gets %health true damage on her second auto, a 2 Sec Roll (stealth in ult), a knock back/stun, and either a mark with more true damage or true damage with a slow. There is no defense for this. Their is no defense for true damage when it is based on %health. You can't build a ton of health, it just increases the amount of damage. You can stack armor because it has no effect on true damage. I understand she is suppose to be a tank shredder but now she is an everything shredder. With her 2 sec roll and knock back (with procs as an auto) you can't even touch her. Vayne has been aids cancer for a long time now they have just ramped her up to aids cancer herpes.

12% Max health True damage on every other AA means 16 AA and you are dead not even counting the non true damage done. Add item 3153 item 3124 item 1416 item 3006 you better be fucking super tank. With little more then attack speed and minimal AD, I'd say 10 Autos your dead. With that much AS 10 autos takes about 4 second. Your dead before a melee can even get in range. Fuck Vayne, fuck true damage, and fuck anyone who thinks she is even remotely balanced.

Edit: Almost forgot something. Watching her take Towers with just item 3006 item 3153 item 3124 item 1419 is hilarious because all that % damage doesn't work on towers. But who cares because she has all the time in the world because as soon as she see a champ all they can smell is silver death.

CaítlynMay 10, 20162 votes

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Now that procs her true damage on second auto it's insane. It's broke as fuck. When she can run bot lane to get or shit is wrong. She doesn't need because you won't get close enough to her.

You are so bad I dont even know where to begin. But obviously youve never played ADC so you have no idea what youre talking about.

First of all item 1418 is a terrible item on her and anyone who buys that is a total noob.

Vayne gets destroyed in lane by literally every ADC in the game. When I see the other team pick Vayne I laugh because its a free win.

EndlessSorcererMay 10, 20161 votes

I feel the same way about Yasuo.

It is my dream as a jungler to have him on the enemy team due to:

His aggressive play-style
His lack of non-conditional escapes and on-demand CC
His lack of ranged wave-clear or farming tools
His low durability.

He is so easy to gank and he has so few options to recover once set behind in most match-ups.

Yasuo also seems to attract toxic players prone to rage and tilting (similar to Vayne and Riven). If you get one behind, there is a very good chance that they will make their team suffer for it and possibly put them on tilt too.

Thurst28May 10, 20161 votes

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I feel the same way about Yasuo.

It is my dream as a jungler to have him on the enemy team due to:

His aggressive play-style

His lack of non-conditional escapes and on-demand CC

His lack of ranged wave-clear or farming tools

His low durability.

He is so easy to gank and he has so few options to recover once set behind in most match-ups.

Yasuo also seems to attract toxic players prone to rage and tilting (similar to Vayne and Riven). If you get one behind, there is a very good chance that they will make their team suffer for it and possibly put them on tilt too.

I agree with you about Yas and Riven but not often enough see them behind.

As far as Vayne, I normally see her behind but almost always comes back if she can make it closer to end game and get some gold. If not she is way head. The last game I played her that I mentioned above and got a 3v5 Quad kill I was 3/5/? and our team was about 2k gold behind, while I was pretty far behind on my jungling. We had no business winning that fight. After that Talon would nuke me on sight and they were still to far ahead but if I managed to stay alive I would giggle at how fast Sion, who was normally an item and level ahead, would melt.

Thurst28May 10, 20161 votes

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You are so bad I dont even know where to begin. But obviously youve never played ADC so you have no idea what youre talking about.

First of all is a terrible item on her and anyone who buys that is a total noob.

Vayne gets destroyed in lane by literally every ADC in the game. When I see the other team pick Vayne I laugh because its a free win.

I would never get item 1418 but item 1419 or item 1416 I am starting to see a lot of, because it's cheap in gold and has solid % health. While I personally wouldn't take smite over heal I've seen it enough to be a thing even if trolly. And yes I don't ADC much and tend to use Tristana Ezreal Caitlyn because they are safer bets for me because I am not good at ADC.

May 7: Master+ Rank games Vayne had a 61% win rate. May 6: Dimond 50% rate.

Those are high points. But over all she has a pretty consistent win rate around 50%. So you and the other guy must be the anti Vayne or just see her played by trash ADC's like me. I know I suck at ADC that's why I que mid, top, Jung depending on my mood. But that doesn't change that this item gives her 33% more true damage after 6 auto.
33% MORE TRUE DAMAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like she needs more of that.