Season 7 and Lee can still flash during kick but I can't

People say he falls off later because the only thing he offers in said later game is his R-E combo basically. People say she falls off later because the only thing she offers in said later game is her ult that is easily negated. People say she falls off later because the only thing she offers in said later game is her dash resets and a conditional stun. People say he falls off later because the only thing he offers in said later game is his Q-R combo.

Same goes for a bunch of other Divers and Vanguards who don't have half the early game presence or clears that Lee Sin has. "Oh, he only offers an AoE slow +knockup with huge nuking power and mobility..." Lee Sin does fine lategame, especially since he's probably fed from how braindead his early game is.

Riot has always pandered to Lee Sin - so much so that they'll buff him for no reason just because he hasn't been played in the LCS. He's overloaded and is a perfect example of toxic design Riot likes to pretend they care about.

EDIT: This is sarcasm, in case you couldn't tell.

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People say he falls off later because the only thing he offers in said later game is his Q-W/Flash-R-Q combo basically.

And if he can't do that, he's worthless. And for him to do that, he literally has to fly right into the enemy team to get past them and flank and kick said squishy, unless he manages to successfully flank all the way around.

And if the enemy team doesn't just CC him mid-dash, they deserve to lose that teamfight. And ifi the enemy team didn't ward or have sufficient map awareness, they deserve to lose that teamfight.

He relies on snowballing in early by getting his laners ahead to make up for his useless behind past early game.

and after half the team quick reacts his dash with cc the rest of his team roles in and beats ya down

So he turns into a Tank/Assassin? Builds tanky and only needs to get next to the carry for less than a second and they die? Sure, he doesn't kill them himself but he does get them killed and might even survive since he can do that while being full tank with mobility. He even has similar map mobility to other assassins with his ward hop and naturally good move speed. If they do kill him then they probably had to burn a lot to kill him since he built tank, so now that a decent amount of cooldowns got blown to save the carry the rest of his team can engage.

Also to build off that, if you build full AD, you will never, EVER, get a single kill by the majority of your OWN work in said mid/lategame, because any non-retarded team will just CC you once and shred you to death in half a second.

the only thing riven can do late game is flash combo. other than that she is garbage in the current meta since it's not splitpushing oriented

I mean he basically is an assassin anyways. He's not good at dueling over length or brawling. Sure, he can. He's not optimized for it.

He's also just as reliable as assassins in that aspect (read: not very). (Lee/any other assassin) relies on landing their (Q, W, and or Flash/gapcloser) and diving into the middle of the enemy team and hoping they can get off their relatively long burst combo while still inside the middle of the enemy team and then get back out without dying.

You jump into the middle of a team to kick the ADC? You're about to get walloped by CC. You jump into the middle of a team as LB/Talon/Katarina/whoever else to assassinate the ADC? You're about to get walloped by CC.

Against any half-competent team who knows better than to just wander out by themselves or just watch blankly as their ADC is targeted, both will have a hard time. AKA, for both to do well, it takes an extremely high level of skill.

nope, I am talking about the buff in 6.18 giving his W 5% more lifesteal at all ranks.

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What?

It's super fucking easy to do.

its easy to learn, hard to master

its very easy to mess it up as well.

i don't get why your complaining about it. its nothing but skill involved