Which burst mage scales best in the game?

nachocheeseeeee·12/23/2019, 5:54:53 AM·1 votes·2,643 views

True Burst Mages Annie Veigar Syndra Lux Zoe

And if you consider them Burst Mages Orianna Anivia Lissandra Neeko Viktor Brand TwistedFate Zyra Ahri Leblanc

12 Comments

Metal Janna12/23/2019, 6:07:25 AM2 votes

I would think Veigar due to Phenomenal Evil Power.

Death by Glamour12/23/2019, 6:19:50 AM2 votes

Viegar has likely the highest burst, lux has the utility and range.

King Lego12/23/2019, 6:43:44 AM2 votes

I'd suggest Vel'Koz Velkoz (as a vel main) since he has a decent burst combo.

His passive deals true damage and his ulti deals true damage when his passive is proced, making him capable of melting squishees and tanks alike. Although you'll need to aim well cuz they are all skillshots and time them well so you can hit as multiple champs as possible.

Although keep in mind he is squishee and immobile. But you can always build these items item 3165 item 3151 item 3116 item 3157 item 3102 for a little tankiness and you can also build item 3907 for the mobility, but you have to stack it up so it can make you go super fast.

Ashe mage AD12/23/2019, 7:03:30 AM2 votes

Since you asked which one scales best, like bruh, Veigar is legit the AP variant of Nasus.

RyzeRework12/23/2019, 7:44:14 AM2 votes

I mean veigar indefinitely scales and I wouldnt really call tf a burst mage... hes more of his own type.

Malix Farwin12/23/2019, 10:15:51 AM2 votes

Depends. Veigar scales the best late game while Zoe scales the best mid game for example.

PopcornBunni12/24/2019, 2:41:30 PM1 votes

"AP scaling" mean one of two things: 1.) the flat amount of damage added per AP, and 2.) the ratio of adding AP compared to the base damage of a spell.

We'll also discount Veigar and Thresh who have infinite damage scaling

There's also the cooldown of spells to account for. I'll assume "burst" is dealt over 3 seconds, though at this point in the game that's damn near the length of an entire team fight.

I'll mostly be focusing on the cooldowns and raw damage added, and assume 40% CDR since every champion scales faster with 1066 gold of CDR than with AP.

Ahri with Charm amp, 307.6% AP scaling assuming everything hits the same target Annie 2Qs, 1W, and 3s of Tibbers = 340% AP scaling Cassiopeia Cassiopeia 5 seconds of Q exposure (1 Q then another after 2.1s), 5 seconds of W exposure, 6 enhanced Es in 3 seconds, and R: 625% AP

Cassiopeia is likely far and away the winner, as most others you listed have total scaling around 200% AP. I'll just cover the other answers people are giving in the thread.

Anivia: Q1 and 2, enhanced E, and 3 seconds of R: 265% AP scaling Azir 3 soldier engage, 1.375 attacks per second = 2 autos, E passthrough, and R: 310%. If we extend the burst window out to allow an additional 3-soldier auto, it goes up to 400%. Ryze highest damage combo: Q W E Q E Q = 345% AP scaling, 23% bonus mana scaling. Hard to quantify whether this is more or less than Cass's damage output, but it's worth noting reaching 40% CDR with mana AP items is harder than focusing on just CDR and AP Viktor With 3 seconds of R exposure and both hits of death ray: 365% AP scaling Velkoz 2 Es, Q, W, 1.5 seconds of R exposure, and 3 passive procs: 415% AP scaling

And to answer your specific question below:

Vladimir Empowered Q and fully charged E both amped by R, and R's detonation damage: 280% AP Karthus R, 5 isolated Qs, and 3s of E: 435% AP; if the Q target isn't isolated, drops to 285% Orianna 3 autos, 2 Qs, W, E and R: 313% AP scaling

PhearBunny12/23/2019, 12:38:32 PM1 votes

Ryze touched me with his 2 mana items. i almost died.

Daddy Ants12/23/2019, 10:09:28 AM1 votes

True Burst Mage = Veigar scales the best.

Out of the entire Mage roster the best scaling Mages are Anivia Azir Cassiopeia Viktor Ryze Veigar