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Shield duration nerfs nerf ardent on Janna/Lulu/Karma, piling on nerfs beyond those to ardent itself

Bern·6/13/2018, 3:40:50 AM·2 votes·1,151 views

Shields are the ardent delivery system for Lulu and Janna and Karma. Longer shield durations enable safer delivery of ardent, because it's less likely the shield will be wasted just to apply the buff. However, with lower shield durations, ardent becomes a lot worse; using your shield to buff your AD is a lot more likely to result in the shield itself getting no value.

Given how much of the power of Janna/Karma/Lulu is in Ardent, this strikes me as potentially hitting them harder than intended (proportional to the duration removed -- so Lulu has it the worst). Also a bit of an indirect ADC nerf, too.

6 Comments

SmashinBob6/13/2018, 3:51:19 AM1 votes

I dont mind the change, most of botlane prior to 8.11 was just a shield cannon battery from hyper and ench supp on every game. Now we have other adcs and supps coming into playable state, i got tired of only playing hypers. The only problem is that most of the non hyper adcs were not in a good state to begin with, with a few exceptions.

VoraciousX6/13/2018, 3:55:01 AM1 votes

Lulu has some of the best peel of any enchanter, and enchanters themselves have been at the top of the support ladder for too long. We should wonder if ADCs should have had attack speed buffs that long to begin with imo.

Zone of Endless6/13/2018, 4:27:26 AM1 votes

Are they nerfing ardent too or something?

Doesn't ardent buff still persist even if the shield is broken?