Was clearing blue normally in a game as Elise and it reset on me >_<
Elise is already so bad that I don't want to pick her because I feel like a total liability if I do so. I feel like this was more of an accidental nerf than anything intended, but it still really sucks. I'm guessing it has something to do with how aggro switches off spiderlings to Elise (or more specifically, ranged human form Elise)?
Sona Ping2 votesYeah. It said in the patch notes that this was to fix some few case but it just ends up lowering the viability of non-top pick junglers even more. Which, this needs to be said explicitly another time, reduces the "strategic diversity" in jungler picks. Again. This just shows that a whole lot of grief could have been saved if they just manned up and nerfed Lee Sin and company like they wanted to a half a year ago.
ZephyrDrake2 votesRiot doesn't care about Elise so doubt they will care if this hurts her
Tourian1 votesFeels bad man ;_;
And I was worried about this happening when I read it in the patch notes op.
MattAkhavan2 votesI think you are just doing the spiderling tank wrong. i played elise and it worked fine for me.
Earl Eulrich2 votesWell...the leash reset did hurt every non-meta jungler to a degree - all it did accomplish is screwing jungle-diversity over. It´s really the patch of uncalled for changes with Karma and the leash changes. just reverting back to 5.9 would make the game better.
ElJanitorFrank1 votesBut...the amount of resets before a total reset happens has been increased...
Bern1 votesBut...the amount of resets before a total reset happens has been increased...
However, Elise is a ranged champion some of the time, which affects how she interacts with leashing (negatively).
ElJanitorFrank1 votesDon't you just have to position a bit differently? All they did was decrease the range to 500. Just stand 50 units closer, and I don't see the difference.
Earl Eulrich3 votesNEWRANGED RESET SHENANIGANS When a monster loses aggro due to range, its leash counter increases by 1 (the same as if that monster had targeted a different champion). If the monster re-acquires a ranged target after being hit, it will also increase its leash counter by 1 (the same as if that monster had re-acquired its original target). This basically means that ranged attackers can now only solo-reset a monster camp 3 times, down from 6.
this means effectivly that for ranged champs the leash-counter got down from 5->2, as the 3rd releash already triggers the 6th counter. But hey, it had been necessary, as we all know ranged-junglers have been overly dominating for waay too long...
Bern1 votes[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XQnUEdcJ,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-05-31T13:12:15.584+0000)
this means effectivly that for ranged champs the leash-counter got down from 5->2, as the 3rd releash already triggers the 6th counter. But hey, it had been necessary, as we all know ranged-junglers have been overly dominating for waay too long...
Since the only meta ranged jungler is Nid, right?
Sej, Gragas, Volibear, Reksai, Lee, Nunu, etc. are the major picks right now, -and not one of those is ranged-.
I think it's more because they don't want LeBlanc soloing blue buff or something lol
Doctor Dyment1 votesSorry about that friend. I'm sure that Riot didn't mean to nerf Elise... again... with this change. Just try to wait it out and see if it becomes better. I don't play Elise, but I can feel for you guys who play the champion who seen a buff since dinosaurs ruled the Earth.
Millenium1 votesWe're you trying to kite it around to not take damage? Actually stupid question, because you obviously were. Elise clears faster in her melee form anyway so that should never be happening. You need to throw your ranged human form abilities and just stick to melee afterwords. Plus if you're getting too many resets on the camp then you need to learn the pull range and stop passing it three times in a row. All of her DPS is in her spider form, stick to it. If you want to kite, waste your mana on a stun and walk the 300 distance to the left to get your two free auto attacks in before it starts hitting you again. You have spiderlings to tank anyway, why are you walking around in human form?