Black Cleaver Preseason 3 was a billion times worse

Yma S·Nov 20, 2015·5 votes·759 views

just sayin

13 Comments

JbelsNov 20, 20151 votes

I don't know. I don't see it as being worth taking over Iceborn gauntlet anymore. 2700 gold for the same amount of CDR, a decent amount of defensive stat (65 Armor) and 500 mana. 300 Health is...ok? And the armor shred passive is nice and all, but that's for 3500 gold, what?

ChangstyNov 20, 20151 votes

You seem to be forgetting 55 AD and the passive.

JbelsNov 20, 20151 votes

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You seem to be forgetting 55 AD and the passive.

I guess...I don't know,man...800 more gold for that?

ChangstyNov 20, 20151 votes

Rage is a lot more useful for sticking to targets with dashes, AD costs more than armor and most tanks/bruisers don't really have mana problems so the cost effectiveness of that 500 mana is debatable.

JbelsNov 20, 20151 votes

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Rage is a lot more useful for sticking to targets with dashes, AD costs more than armor and most tanks/bruisers don't really have mana problems so the cost effectiveness of that 500 mana is debatable.

I think it just depends on who you're playing. If I'm playing champions like Gnar or Renekton or Shyvana, then of course the frozen fist is a no go. But Somebody like Sion, or Nasus, or even the new Illaoi coming up, since her W is also an AA

KorilloNov 20, 20151 votes

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I don't know. I don't see it as being worth taking over Iceborn gauntlet anymore. 2700 gold for the same amount of CDR, a decent amount of defensive stat (65 Armor) and 500 mana. 300 Health is...ok? And the armor shred passive is nice and all, but that's for 3500 gold, what?

what about item 3071 AND item 3025 tho.

JbelsNov 20, 20151 votes

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what about AND tho.

If I'm snowballing so hard that I can get 6200 gold's worth of items like those, then why the hell not

JJI744Nov 20, 20153 votes

Y'all missed the point of the OP completely. He is saying pre-season 3, with stackable BC, was far worse than this preseason. Having played back then, OP is quite right.

JbelsNov 20, 20151 votes

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Y'all missed the point of the OP completely. He is saying pre-season 3, with stackable BC, was far worse than this preseason. Having played back then, OP is quite right.

5 sunfire cape Garen

JJI744Nov 20, 20151 votes

Before my time, but I've seen a couple of videos from that time. Pretty dumb when stacking HP and armor made you deal more DPS than actually building damage.

SaltyKrackaNov 20, 20151 votes

But at least they hotfixed that shit and stuff settled back down.

JJI744Nov 20, 20151 votes

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But at least they hotfixed that shit and stuff settled back down.

IDK, I seem to recall about half of Season 3 being defined by item changes. From BC to Warmogs to BotRK, what champions were good (or even viable) was determined by who could use the OP items. Hell, it capped off with Trinity going from a poor choice to broken just in time for worlds.