talon's ult should be intercepted at where it hits the wall, but not the ENTIRE thing should be destroyed upon contact
like when MF ults into a windwall slightly to the left, the projectiles that hit it are killed, but the ones that the wall isn't at aren't killed
Either you can't code it, which means the client is shit
or you actually intended this as balance, which means you are full of shit Riot.
I eat dragons41 votes[deleted]
yukumari10 votes[{quoted}](name=Crazeh Fruit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eEH7bP9h,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-10-28T04:45:30.761+0000)
cause it's coded as one big projectile and because talon is old and riot is too lazy to fix it because like 2 people play talon
"Because like 2 people play talon" LOL hahahahaah not sure why that's so funny, but it is.
Kaizokumo6 votesi play talon..................
IcyPepper12 votesAs do I.
Guess that makes all of us.
Kaizokumo2 votesHes actually not that bad in solo que tbh
IcyPepper4 votesPssst I was making a joke.
I know he's not bad, he's my main assassin when not jungling/supporting. His combo is simple and reliable, reasonable cooldowns, reasonable level of counterplay and outplay potential (having the latter without the former just feels terrible for the enemy), and neither team feels like I'm playing a bullshit champion.
Kaizokumo2 votesYeah hes actually one of my fav mids. Nobody will ever pick on you for going mid as talon. I am usualy always able to beat my lane opponent. like literally unless its a heimer donger
iamleburk1 votesHe's great in most matchups. I rejoice whenever there is a jinx on the other team, but i have yet to go up against a fizz without dying in lane.
Kaizokumo1 votesHe's great in most matchups. I rejoice whenever there is a jinx on the other team, but i have yet to go up against a fizz without dying in lane.
Well in that matchup one my first back i always get boots of speed. Then i build for hexdrinker always. Use E on a minion and poke with q, get out quick, harass him to make sure he gets decently low. And then surprise burst him, ppl usually have a gard time relying to the crazy burst talon has and greatly understimate the damage he can do. But fizz is still a motherfucker. What is nice is that rake goes through minions and has a higher range than what is shown+ fizz is melee. And i mean the combo is always going to be shark into trickster
iamleburk1 votesYea it just seems every time i go in to trade he wins by a lot.
Melledoneus1 votesMake that 3.
Fowus1 votessame
Divinate1 votesOf all the one trick pony names I've seen, I think like 90% of them are talons for some reason, even though no one else plays him,,.
Lugg18 votesWhy does his WW stop so many abilities.....
Melledoneus11 votesNami lines up a perfect ultimate, ready to disrupt the back line to win the fight
"Face the wind!"
Tidal wave turns into droplets from 2 foot tall wind wall
Zeurth1 votesThen when I play yasuo I do it on the very edge of nami's ulti to piss people off. They go wtf?? :^)
Melledoneus1 votesYou are the pinnacle of cruelty and wickedness of this community. You monster!
Ziovi1 votesyeah, it's like "oh, 1 drop of that huge tidal wave touched the wind wall -> the entire wave instantly evaporates" XD Seriously, they should try to find a way to change these things, because it's just silly
SiG DxD6 voteseven worse ,when u die invisible or with W thrown ,they dont comeback and dont do dmg unlike rest of the projectiles and things
jeremiahBIO6 voteswhy is his wind wall able to block my nami ult?
Poske5 votesThey coded it like a single ability because release talon could hit you with every FU CKING BLADE
realease talon was a nightmare
Could one shot entire team with well used R
SouL1ess2 votes[{quoted}](name=Sub HeroCro,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eEH7bP9h,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2015-10-28T14:30:06.708+0000)
They coded it like a single ability because release talon could hit you with every FU CKING BLADE
realease talon was a nightmare
Could one shot entire team with well used R
He never could. Just like how Black Cleaver could never remove 100% of your armor through stacking Black Cleavers.
Release Talon was pretty OP because he had double the natural health and mana regeneration you had, had very good and mana-efficient poke to back up the regeneration, and had lower cooldown ult to work with.
But his ult mechanism never changed.
Poske1 votesHe never could. Just like how Black Cleaver could never remove 100% of your armor through stacking Black Cleavers.
Release Talon was pretty OP because he had double the natural health and mana regeneration you had, had very good and mana-efficient poke to back up the regeneration, and had lower cooldown ult to work with.
But his ult mechanism never changed.
He could hit you with multiple blades
Since he cant I dont play him
SO FUCK ING TRUST ME when I say he could
R>E>R oneshots were real His aoe damage was broken
SouL1ess2 votes[{quoted}](name=Sub HeroCro,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eEH7bP9h,comment-id=000a00010000,timestamp=2015-10-30T15:02:58.796+0000)
He could hit you with multiple blades
Since he cant I dont play him
SO FUCK ING TRUST ME when I say he could
R>E>R oneshots were real His aoe damage was broken
So do you want to show a video where Talon ult did 3120 base damage by itself or are you just going to say "trust me when I speak"?
Because I can say that Fizz's E gave him two second of invulnerability and overexaggerate and say "trust me" and it still won't be true.
forist4 votesIt's a legit bug, that they fixed awhile ago, but now its back again. Idk why, but yeah not really fair.
Crossette3 votesTalon doesn't need any advantages.
IT'S TALON.
My Waifu Vanilla2 votesYeah man the riskiest assassin with mana problems the entire game does not need help....got it. Literally the only thing talon has on other assassins is he can snowball harder IF he can get a lead and does mainly AoE damage. However, Talon lacks a realistic escape so will typically die every team fight and go anywhere from 0-1 to 2-1. Honestly one of the best changes I could suggest for Talon is to give him a ms boost on his E so he can maybe get out of a fight without sacrificing half his ult damage trying to stealth away (or make it castable on allies since he doesn't cut throats anymore anyway).
darapier173 votestalon is easily the most balanced assassin
Melledoneus2 votesActually, Riot stated that the most balanced assassin was Zed.
Floooooooooooops2 votesRiot lied.
Melledoneus2 votesBut can you really lie while giving an opinion?
Floooooooooooops2 votesYes.
Hellioning3 votesFor the same reason that Sona ult is a projectile.
Stars Shaper2 votesShould be fixed Imo. Spaghetti code is hilarious.
Actually xPeke2 votesit's old spaghetti code.
SlampieceHawke2 votesI feel your pain. I'm 
I see squishy 
or his adc next to him... I auto relentlessly, my reflexes aren't god like so I can't cancel my auto fast enough as he puts windwall up...
My damage in the teamfight is now irrelevant because my spinning axes disappeared.
AbyssionKnight4 votesHonestly, in the case of Draven it shouldn't destroy his axe, just throw it in a random direction. Then you'll still most likely not be able to catch it, but there will at least be some random situations where you could (but even then might regret doing so).
SlampieceHawke1 votesRight! Thank you. That would indeed help drave. Get behind my post if you'd like, good sir.http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/h4HAVtBk-draaaaaven-love
Guy Fox Teemo2 votesWas fixed before, probably got bugged again.
Toastey1 votessame reason that it destroys nami's entire ult if the corners touch it
BlunterMonk1 voteswell Namis ult is one solid piece, Talons is not.
Celeste Benal1 votesWindwall stops all projectiles. Talon's ult is composed of 6 flying stars, which are clearly projectiles. Get it yet?
TurquoiseYoshi3 votesYes, but the ones that don't run into the Windwall are destroyed if one gets blocked. Nobody is complaining that it's called a projectile.
NavyDivea1 votesIm just hoping the man get a sight buff, most AD mids have been hamstringed. Really would like talon and kah back in the mid lane to shut down azir, bastard is broken.
Steelflame2 votesA lot of big mage items are getting a nerf to gold effeciency, and there are a ****ton of new AD caster items coming out. It is already happening.
Zedex2 votesYeah but they don't counter Azir...Azir's ultimate when used properly wins every fight against those two. He outclasses them in midlane, but thats his job. A long range poke mage can make a meal out of Azir, try it sometime.
forist1 votesThese are old videos, but I've had both of these things happen to me recently, since I play a lot of talon and yasuo is a very popular champ I've encountered this issue quite often. You can see in both that the entire ult disappears instead of just the blades that pass though the wind wall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKYFJxtzCiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwaObbGiGzo
Not, my videos btw.
Steelflame1 votesThat actually shows it working exactly as intended through......
Seriously, the first video shows them returning and being destroyed as they hit the wall (The blades are destroyed in sequence, not all at once), and the second is placed directly on him and eats each projectile individually. Remember, the blades have a fairly large hit box. If anything this is showing that the wall+blades have inaccurate hitboxes to animation, not that it works wrong.
forist1 votesThat actually shows it working exactly as intended through......
Seriously, the first video shows them returning and being destroyed as they hit the wall (The blades are destroyed in sequence, not all at once), and the second is placed directly on him and eats each projectile individually. Remember, the blades have a fairly large hit box. If anything this is showing that the wall+blades have inaccurate hitboxes to animation, not that it works wrong.
The first one is somewhat debatable, but the second one isn't, standing on one side of the wall should not destroy all of the blades in the ult, only the ones that touch the wall. He's clearly standing at least a full teemo to the left of the wall, but all of the blades are destroyed that can't be chalked up to positioning. The first video I guess could be attributed to really big hit-boxes on the blades, but I still think that theres something wrong with the interaction.
RouterSmiter1 votessame thing happens to nami
