Ziggs and a couple other odd bot lanes appear due to the meta

Mira Arya Enthe··19 votes·1,375 views

OMFGFGFGFG ADCSSSSS not necessaryY?Y?Y? obsolete!?!?!?!?!!? ADCSSSSS not necessary status.

The boards are laughable. The current meta with first tower blood and dragon being so overpowered, combined with jungle exp and ganking. Has made ADCs hard to use early game and decide your own fate. So people are playing laners with wave clear so they can not get instantly dove by 4-5 people the moment the wave is pushed. And conversely when their side ganks they can still use Ziggs passive and satchel to capitalize on tower killing similar to an AD champion. This means the other team might pick a non-adc who can deal with Ziggs, thus resulting in a no-adc game.

This isn't some huge revolution, it is just a byproduct of the toxic meta the boards are whining about. The moment things like herald, dragon, jungle exp, ganking, tower strength and tower first blood are looked into, and the game isn't determined by who gang-bangs bot lane first, ADCs are right back in the meta as mid-game late-game farm carries and objective killing DPS who can shred tanks.

tl;dr Calm down will you.

EDIT: Forgot to mention 'supports' like Zyra and Brand also contribute to this. Giving the support role the power to kill the ADC with ease, so people get tired of trying to farm around plants/pillar of flame and just move out of bot lane or play an odd bot lane carry.

10 Comments

MunchCrunchLunch4 votes

they need to introduce more ap champs that can replace carries. long range and tower distruction.

Meep Man2 votes

I think the coming Zz'Rot Portal changes, based on how the meta is right now, might make some waves. 4x the damage they currently do to structures at the cost of them not being as good at killing minions.

Marshbouy1 votes

I have yet to see someone say that Marksman are no longer necessary in a game.

Blanchimont1 votes

I feel the problem is that ADCs and traditional supports are severely under powered with lethality. It makes their already weak early game even weaker and why we have AP champions taking over their roles now.

SweedishGunner1 votes

This guy going bot Malzahar as support is all wrong in my opinion.

I've seen it a lot of high elo games and it seems Malz is just used as a glorified ult bot that can push waves if needed. Which is really sad.

JVP151 votes

From my vast personal experience with Malzahar support (one game as, one game against, impressed yet?) I can say that he has a few more uses. For one, he is pretty good at zoning with his EW combo. It can easily chunk someone for half of their health and the little voidlings zone the ADC away from minions for quite some time. Secondly and slightly less importantly, starting W gives the jungler an amazing leash because of how many Voidlings spawn and how much they tank. Finally, as you said, he is a great ult bot. Oh, and he is actually decent against these mage ADC's or just caster ADC's in general because of the silence on his Q.

SweedishGunner1 votes

Obviously he brings more to the table than just his ult. But why take him support over mid lane? What is it that's pushing him to be played support rather than mid? It's not like he's being built support with Locket and Redemption, so he's not on that boat.

From having played a fair bit of Malzahar (mid) I could suggest it might be his mid/late scaling that's turning him into an ult bot. He's great early game after the W changes, you can 80-0 people around level 4/5 pretty easily but he seems to fall off late due to how easily the Voidlings are cleared and the short E range.

Maybe the fact you can just ult bot ADC at 6 and take first blood tower with the jungler is the reason for him being played support. Either way though I'm not a fan of it.

Adriqnohee1 votes

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Obviously he brings more to the table than just his ult. But why take him support over mid lane? What is it that's pushing him to be played support rather than mid?

The answer for the question is always the same, because he doesn't need gold to accomplish his goal.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Well it's about time that I shit on apcs with my khazix support when I get autofilled lol

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