Riot, if you are going to nerf katarina, please nerf her passive's hitbox/size

GULAG 4 U·Jan 7, 2017·2 votes·1,278 views

Title. Making the aoe smaller would still reward her for landing her shit but make it harder to land, right now the aoe is large as hell and hard as fuck to avoid.

16 Comments

LostFr0stJan 7, 20172 votes

The AoE looks hard to avoid since Kat can choose where to land in the red circle and then she herself becomes center the passive circle. She's extending it by landing on the edge. Like this: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/Circle-CircleIntersectionHalf_700.gif <---best gif I could find with mid-overlapping ;.; She's due free-week anytime, so you should try her out then to get a feel for it in a custom. I don't think you'll have much trouble with her after doing that tbh.

IncarcerationJan 7, 20171 votes

I would rather lower the damage so she can be rewarded for using the mobility to dodge stuff and get to her target. Compensate by buffing her q damage.

GULAG 4 UJan 7, 20171 votes

Why so though, imo her passive is way too big but I want to know other point of views.

IncarcerationJan 7, 20171 votes

Katarina got alot of increased mobility, but now you can't wardhop. I find it very impressive when a Katarina jukes a target by e'ing to the dagger, and then e'ing out, or when she e's onto a dagger, q's the person, e's onto the dagger, and ults. Those combos are what I find flashy and adds to her skillcap rather than strategy since that doesn't really appeal to people.

DoseqisJan 7, 20171 votes

I find her just incredibly frustrating in laning, if you don't have mobility and you get a bad bounce you can't escape the damage in time.

I think the early damage needs to go down or her E cooldown go up, she can pretty much jump in and deal a huge chunk and be out before you can properly retaliate.

Also i find her almost as infuriating as yasuo mid and late game when she has so much mobility that you can't hit her with skillshots.

zrWQMdGHtYJan 7, 20171 votes

Just revert the rework and she's brilliant. <3

zrWQMdGHtYJan 7, 20171 votes

Her passive hitbox needs a buff. Tired of my animation hitting the enemy but not dealing damage, because the hitbox said "Nope"

And why make her harder? She's currently the hardest champ ingame. I Suggest you learn to dodge...

GULAG 4 UJan 7, 20172 votes

She doesn't really need a buff to be fair. Also the cast time is quite instant, it's not really dodging but more just completely staying away from them.

There is no "hardest" champion in the game anyways.

zrWQMdGHtYJan 7, 20171 votes

Instant? 90% of the time I die, because I see how my dagger is flying in the air and some random Yi is giving me 4 basic attacks for 300 dmg each in that time and I cant kill him with his 150 HP remaining because, Im busy waiting for my darm dagger to land so I can finally do my MAIN damage...

And yes there is, it's currently Katarina in this basic attack meta, where basic attack champs burst you in less than 1 second with absolutly no skill needed.

P.S its instant only if it's already landed which isnt 90% of the cases in a TF, or when you try to escape a 1v2/3/4/5 gank.

DoseqisJan 7, 20171 votes

No offense but i don't think you really understand how the game works right now.

Kat is hard but not the hardest champion by far, ADCs suck right now and are being one shot by bruisers and her dagger takes so long to land because it's ratios are insane.

CochoJan 7, 20171 votes

I'm biased because I main Kat, but if requiring alot more inputs, positioning, and knowledge about how a fight is going to go isn't hard, then what makes a champion hard?

Most champions are really easy in my opinion. Name some champs you think are harder that isn't Riven.

zrWQMdGHtYJan 7, 20171 votes

I mean Riven is hard. Spamming Q whole day and stuff. Most don't even need skill as they use a macro mouse to do t he basic attack/Q combos so... cough cough. Just saying. While Kat cant be macroed anymore :p But it's still true that Shenpai speaks none-sense yet again, trying to call me stupid just because I play Kat whole day long and see how she is while he just speaks as long as he doesn't fall a sleep.

Big LincolnJan 7, 20171 votes

shouldn't get the reset if she doesn't hit anybody with her passive imo

ridic how quickly she can close the gap on me and I can dodge passive and still won't get away

HigeJan 7, 20171 votes

I know it's very counter intuitive but when she throws her dagger at you, you have two choices:

1.- if you react quickly you can run away and the knife will fall behind you, this is incredibly hard considering the missile is particularly fast but it can be done.

2.- run towards her after the knife hits you, if she jumps to the knife, she'll miss the damage from her passive and if she jumps to you, you'll only receive damage from shunpo itself which isn't particularly high, at this point she'll need to either run to her knife or jump back if she used preparation before hand, in which case you always need to run straight towards her... of course, the danger of getting ulted on the face is there so, be ready to flash away

RlP K0BEJan 7, 20171 votes

Just revert that unnecessary passive damage buff.

FacerollKatarinaJan 8, 20171 votes

In all honesty, being a kat main, her issue is her laning phase is too strong, because currently she stomps about 95% of the laners in the game, and has arguably the strongest laning phase out of any assassin or even anyone in the game. Her dagger hitboxes aren't the problem tho, her dagger damage just needs to be tuned down straight up, (I'd go as far to say to nerf it at all ranks). Since she crushes every laner, she can roam bot and oneshot the adc before they can react, and the only way you can lose after that is Kat fucks up. The rework seemed like a bit of a failure to me, not in terms of changing kat because she feels great to play, but she just has such an oppressive design that it is unfun to play against. Like, if I'm going mid and don't plan on playing Katarina, I ban her, because shes obnoxious to deal with.