Can we have some compensation mana cost buffs to Twitch?

Starcall Casey·Feb 28, 2015·40 votes·1,946 views

I think since Kalista was released it wouldn't be too bad to cut his mana cost down by 20-30 or something like that. At least just on his E. Anybody with me on this?

27 Comments

Sweetie BrellaFeb 28, 201527 votes

I'd be careful if I were you, Riot doesn't seem to have a very strong grasp on what the word "compensation" means.

MatezoideFeb 28, 201511 votes

Heres an idea:

Why dont we finally fix his ult so it can hit the Nexus?

A Miss FortuneMar 1, 20158 votes

Twitch needs buffs really badly.

Q: It shouldn't take nearly as long to use his Q in combat as it does. Other champs can instantly stealth while in combat with much lower costs.

W: Should be like a 40% or 30% slow, I'm not sure how much it slows at the moment but it's really worthless. Maybe more damage too if not.

E: It would be cool to see this do more damage, since it barely does damage unless you apply full passive stacks on them which isn't that easy in lane

R: Twitch's ultimate is surprisingly really balanced out and should stay the same

Passive: This is also balanced out, it makes Twitch able to 1v1 easily since it's like a mini ignite or second ignite on a target if any change more like 1 more damage per stack.

Just my thoughts, I loved playing Twitch but he just isn't a really viable pick at the moment against people like Jinx, Graves, and Caitlyn.

IceKingChernobogMar 1, 20151 votes

reduce his Q delay to 4 seconds and his stealth ramp up to 1 second

his passive needs to be reverted back to what it was pre 4.10

Starcall CaseyMar 1, 20151 votes

I like your suggestions. I feel his late game shines stronger in teamfights then in anything else. I love twitch and that's why I main him.

A Miss FortuneMar 1, 20151 votes

I feel like Twitch is made for teamfights, you can get a pentakill VERY easily if everything is positioned right. Though the positioning never happens since most people don't line up for a Twitch ult. But even then, Twitch's passive/W/E all combined on top of his ultimate make him probably one of the best teamfighting ADCs.

HEXXEN9xMar 1, 20151 votes

love you dude

426287Mar 1, 20151 votes

Q: It shouldn't take nearly as long to use his Q in combat as it does. Other champs can instantly stealth while in combat with much lower costs.

name one adc that can instantly stealth with cheaper costs....maybe vayne but thats her fking ult.

SwinkssMar 1, 20152 votes

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Q: It shouldn't take nearly as long to use his Q in combat as it does. Other champs can instantly stealth while in combat with much lower costs.

name one adc that can instantly stealth with cheaper costs....maybe vayne but thats her fking ult.

Yeah but twitch only has one hope of an escape, every other adc has one aswell but theirs doesnt take 6 seconds to cast if hit.

CrettMar 1, 20152 votes

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Twitch needs buffs really badly.

Q: It shouldn't take nearly as long to use his Q in combat as it does. Other champs can instantly stealth while in combat with much lower costs.

W: Should be like a 40% or 30% slow, I'm not sure how much it slows at the moment but it's really worthless. Maybe more damage too if not.

E: It would be cool to see this do more damage, since it barely does damage unless you apply full passive stacks on them which isn't that easy in lane

R: Twitch's ultimate is surprisingly really balanced out and should stay the same

Passive: This is also balanced out, it makes Twitch able to 1v1 easily since it's like a mini ignite or second ignite on a target if any change more like 1 more damage per stack.

Just my thoughts, I loved playing Twitch but he just isn't a really viable pick at the moment against people like Jinx, Graves, and Caitlyn.

WOAH WOAH WOAH i'm a frequent twitch player

he doesn't need more damage LOL if anything, i would buff his passive. each tick scales with 1% of his AD. that would be glorious shoot someone 6 times and they take 36% of your AD in true damage

ZahzFeb 28, 20155 votes

what does kalista have to do with twitch mana costs

Starcall CaseyFeb 28, 201513 votes

Kalista has an infinitely stacking E that does what twitch's E does but also gives mana back on unit's killed and has a 40 mana cost while twitch has 90, and also twitches E only stacks 6 times.

ZahzMar 1, 20152 votes

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Kalista has an infinitely stacking E that does what twitch's E does but also gives mana back on unit's killed and has a 40 mana cost while twitch has 90, and also twitches E only stacks 6 times.

Different champs are different. Twitch also has invisibility and a non partner reliant ultimate

SephAgroMar 1, 20154 votes

I would be careful with using the word 'compensation' when it comes to Riot.

TheKingDodoFeb 28, 20153 votes

it also needs to stack infinitely and refresh on killing a unit

Imperial JapanFeb 28, 201520 votes

Could you not

OhJuiceFeb 28, 20152 votes

Twitch could use a buff or two more in kit or mana but not damage, tho his late game great but he loses opportunity to get ahead at a higher rate than other adc's. He seems to always lack something on reliability that negates putting him on par with the others. His poison tends to seem nonexistent unless he's far ahead too. Those or that whole 6 second drag from being hit before going invisible, when smited even in the middle of the lane he's very likely to get melted because his slow is pretty horrid when using it to escape.

Duke AnaxFeb 28, 20151 votes

Unless we get a proper Mana AD item, he really needs something. Tear gives him no damage early and Essence Reaver takes to long to get mana.

AnidanFeb 28, 20152 votes

A mana AD item would benefit others way more than Twitch. If Ezreal and Jayce and I think a couple others (Hi, Urgot) got a better mana AD item for themselves, they'd be way more painful to deal with than Twitch with that same item. A mana AD item is not the way to buff twitch.

A Miss FortuneMar 1, 20152 votes

Agreed, I think just lowering the mana costs on everything but his E would significantly help him since his E can do considerable damage while his W doesn't really do that much and his Q is just useless really. Shaco has the same thing except it's instant, less mana, and it has a teleport.

A Miss FortuneMar 1, 20156 votes

Essence Reaver should cost like 300 - 500 gold less just due to the fact that you can get typically better items. Maybe Essence Reaver restores 2% - 6% mana every time you hit anything and gives you +50% Mana Regeneration. There's not that many ADCs who buy the item and since it doesn't give that much ADC it wouldn't be overpowered to give it crazy mana restoration capability.

Kitten of EvilMar 1, 20151 votes

It is kind of ridiculous that it costs basically as much as a Bloodthirster.

cFlameMar 1, 20151 votes

I'm pretty fine with that, I don't have a reason to say no.

Variks the LoyalMar 1, 20151 votes

Make his passive do bonus damage to monsters so I can jungle Twitch again.

OblongOtterMar 1, 20151 votes

I would like Twitch to be a contender. Rework him if you must, Riot, I just really want him to be playable. As opposed to an immobile Kalista with a worse E.

Starcall CaseyMar 1, 20151 votes

He certainly is a contender in any match up and i love his kit right now. Kalista is highly mobile but is extremely squishy and has to build a ton of attack speed for her passive to be put to great use. There are trade offs between twitch and Kalista and while Kalista does super well in close 2v2's Twitch can excel at 1v1's and teamfights. I would just love for his E not to cost so much for just being a worse kalista E.

CrettMar 1, 20151 votes

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He certainly is a contender in any match up and i love his kit right now. Kalista is highly mobile but is extremely squishy and has to build a ton of attack speed for her passive to be put to great use. There are trade offs between twitch and Kalista and while Kalista does super well in close 2v2's Twitch can excel at 1v1's and teamfights. I would just love for his E not to cost so much for just being a worse kalista E.

maybe we should let twitch's passive scale infinitely too