Ivern is in the LAST place in the popularity list over a year...

LdCwrGm1vv·9/16/2018, 4:15:02 PM·3 votes·1,223 views

So...maybe......just MAYBE buff him a BIT instead of the already strong Zed? Seriously, Ivern has 370 movement speed with a 45MS boot. He isn't even viable as Jungler because he can't gank with this slow MS. He can't even get an assist because can't reach the enemy because of the slowness.

8 Comments

Mogarl9/16/2018, 4:33:39 PM2 votes

Ivern is not the kind of champion I want to see buffed into popularity. Do to the way his kit functions when he's strong you just don't get to interact with him. His early smite clears are just to fast for counterplay.

Frosted Tips9/16/2018, 5:02:01 PM2 votes

Ivern is a very niche champion. He will never have a super high popularity unless he is broken. That is just how it is.

Mordepool9/16/2018, 6:32:28 PM2 votes

Just saying as a Morde main with the last 3 years of being in the bottom 4 lowest popularity champions. They don't buff based on lack of popularity. The do buff based on abundance of popularity however.

Ei. Ahri, lux, etc...

Linna Excel9/16/2018, 6:36:09 PM1 votes

Ivern is too weird and support isn't something most junglers want to do. Unless riot VGU deletes him, I don't see him ever being popular.

sneakydoug9/16/2018, 6:42:02 PM1 votes

Yeah he’s just an unfun champion. It’s got nothing to do with needing buffs.

Ragnaveil9/16/2018, 7:06:43 PM1 votes

He just needs his kit to be worked on. The only time he really worked was when the Ardent + Tank Meta was around. Having a extra shielder in the jg slot gave so much power to the team that had him. Now we come to the day in age where if your clear takes more than 20 seconds, the enemy jg will likely look to invade and steal your shit before you can even get to it. The passive is honestly one of the main issues with him. It takes way too long to mature to be cleared, and it takes a shit ton of mana and hp to channel. I did suggest they should lower the hp and mana costs, but if I have to be honest, maybe lower both just a bit, but not a whole lot. I also suggested that they would give his passive mature scaling (lost the comment, but i'll refine and change the original numbers with ones that I feel better about now) at 24 sec level 1, 18 at level 7, and 12 at level 13. Plus, the mature timer will be halved on your camps. This wont break him because if he tries to use it on a enemy camp, it is the base cd (24 for example) for the mature, and not 12. Plus his costs will force him to back a ton. Also power needs to be shifted around in his kit.

Better Jungler9/16/2018, 7:20:39 PM1 votes

He's last place because he's a passive "jungle" that plays like a support.

He doesn't even have to clear his camps.. just presses a button and they die..

Maybe a minimal effort, shielding support jungler just isn't that great a combination.

ZedUsanGovos9/17/2018, 2:43:52 PM1 votes

So...maybe......just MAYBE buff him a BIT instead of the already strong Zed?

https://i.imgflip.com/2i45ci.jpg

He doesn't need straight buffs. He needs a complete rehaul. His kit just doesn't function well enough in general, unless his numbers are overtuned. And unless you want him to get gutted three times as hard as he already is, overtuned buffs are the LAST thing you want for him.

Zed is not strong. He's ok. Not strong like Season 6, not weak like Season 7. Fin.