personally, id say other then maybe either a shield or slight damage Nerf, shes actually pretty balanced, and i haven't had any problems thus far. to me, its just kind of refreshing to see a new champion who isnt completely overloaded at release/rework for once. like nunu and willump too.
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PhearBunny4 votesDesign wise shes the first balanced champion ive seen riot make/rework in a very very very long time. Tuning wise, shes overpowered.
Marian Cross1 votesThank you! Just needs number tuning really
Mr Elessar3 votes130% ap scaling sure is fine...
Hotarµ2 votesZilean has 200%. Nunu has 250%. Ezreal has 90% on two abilities, one of them being basic. Cho has 100% on his Q, Elise has 95%... the list goes on and on.
Neeko's ult is completely fine because it can be escaped from entirely.
Mr Elessar1 votesNone of those can be cast while using Zhonyas.
Beacon Academy3 votesAmazing what having no unlimited dashes, no knockups, and no max health % damage along with a good damage-vs-durability ratio will do for character balance.
Jinxalot2 votesThey could maybe change the E a bit. Having it go through minions is kinda broke.
Cats Are Food2 votesLike most, I'd just say the damage on her insanely utilitarian ult need to be dumped in the toilet. It's bad enough that it's a massive area stun that shields her for it's channel, then it hits you like a nunu ult.
FOR JUSTICE1 votesI think they just decided to go with its current damage iteration because she cant really get onto all 5 champs as she has no mobility, and all she can rely on is someone double-taking or just flashing for it.
By the same effect nunu dosent have any dashes either, but at least he has cc and can theoretically tank it.
Cats Are Food1 votesThis is true, but it shouldn't be doing almost half the life of squishies if it's also going to temporarily lock them down for closure by the enemy. It's either too safe for her to use, hits too hard, or shouldn't then stun. She already has a root and a slow built in.
Frosted Tips1 votesI can't say she needs anything yet there has not been enough time with her out. I would say that she may need a power shift though. That is just from the surface level though. She needs to be out another 3 weeks atleast to get a good vibe on where she is.
DearPear1 votesFeels fine to me.
Step Sis Lux1 votesFor me she feels more weak than busted but overall i think she is alright
Raven Redeemed1 votesI suspect once people learn to play her optimally (use W passive, manage CDs) she’ll either need a damage nerf and/or a CD nerf. The ult in particular has a pretty low CD for the amount of damage and utility it provides, potentially guaranteeing several kills mid game. But it is hard to say at this point.
Titanium701 votesRight now she's quite balanced - might need some adjustments once people get used to her.
Neekos only problem is the distribution of her powerbudget. Without her ult she's basicly useless - but once she gets it.. oh boi!
Overall she seems like another amumu. Ult 5 for win or don't for loose.
ApollyonBainer1 votesFeels good to play against but could use some nerfs to damage output. I would lower consecutive damage on the bubble thing but increase the size of the ability
FixThisBSGame1 votesThe E going throw minions and CC'ing is broken. Stun lasts too long. Q does far too much damage. Riot needs to make up their mind about damage output in general. Neeko Q does just as much if not more damage than Taliyah's Q used to do before nerfs. Why is it acceptable for Neeko's Q and Ult to do so much damage?
Still Virgiñ1 votesBecause those are her only damaging abilities? Also the root on her E is only 0.5s at all ranks. At max rank the empowered root is 1.5s.
Lets take Lux for example, her Q roots for 2s , deals more dmg than Neeko's E and has a higher Ap ratio. Her E, has 20 dmg less than Neeko Q, but has a 20% higher AP ratio.
Neeko's root duration is actually fine, everyone is just overreacting.
FixThisBSGame1 votes[{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2018-12-09T23:17:05.403+0000)
Because those are her only damaging abilities? Also the root on her E is only 0.5s at all ranks. At max rank the empowered root is 1.5s.
Lets take Lux for example, her Q roots for 2s , deals more dmg than Neeko's E and has a higher Ap ratio. Her E, has 20 dmg less than Neeko Q, but has a 20% higher AP ratio.
Neeko's root duration is actually fine, everyone is just overreacting.
Lux doesn't have any reliable escapes, speed boosts, stealth, or AOE ultimate. She needs burst to survive. Neeko's kit is overloaded. She's like ZoeBlanc 2.0. Why give some champs burst but nerf other burst champions? If Riot doesn't see an issue with her damage, then I'm not understanding the logic behind nerfing Taliyah's Q.
Still Virgiñ1 votesLux doesn't have a reliable AoE ultimate? are you joiking? Lux does not need any escapes because she hits from a larger range than neeko, every single one of her abilities has higher range than neeko, her bind is faster than neeko's bind unless it goes through minions.
Neeko is a mid range champ with 1 ability that either helps her get into the fight or escape, she cannot use it for both.
She also has no passive.
FixThisBSGame1 votes[{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-11T13:52:15.463+0000)
Lux doesn't have a reliable AoE ultimate? are you joiking? Lux does not need any escapes because she hits from a larger range than neeko, every single one of her abilities has higher range than neeko, her bind is faster than neeko's bind unless it goes through minions.
Neeko is a mid range champ with 1 ability that either helps her get into the fight or escape, she cannot use it for both.
She also has no passive.
Lux's ult is a skillshot vs to Neeko not only having a high damage AOE Ult, but she is able to re-position it. Again, Lux has range because she is squishy with limited escapes. Neeko's stun not goes through minions, but it is empowered by them, which is the issue. Neeko does have a passive - her ability to change into allies.
Still Virgiñ1 votesNeeko doesn't have a passive dude. Neeko can only stun on her ultimate, which is easy to dodge and puts her in the middle of the enemy team.
Neeko's root is a slow skillshot, that can really only hit you if she manages to speed it up by using minions. That root that you are saying is too long, is actually shorter than lux bind until lvl 3.
FixThisBSGame1 votes[{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T03:19:27.898+0000)
Neeko doesn't have a passive dude. Neeko can only stun on her ultimate, which is easy to dodge and puts her in the middle of the enemy team.
Neeko's root is a slow skillshot, that can really only hit you if she manages to speed it up by using minions. That root that you are saying is too long, is actually shorter than lux bind until lvl 3.
Sorry, but you continuing to compare Neeko's abilities to Lux doesn't negate Neeko has too much damage in her kit.
Still Virgiñ1 votesyou continuing to say neeko has too much damage in her kit does not erase the fact that her damage is on par with most mages in the mid lane. Who still have more safety than her.
And in fact has less dmg and scaling than quite a lot of mages in the mid lane. It's funny no1 complains about a morgana, who has more damage on all her abilities than neeko does. Yet for some reason, neeko has too much damage.
Seems like people like to complain for the sake of complaining.
FixThisBSGame1 votes[{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-14T11:30:53.049+0000)
you continuing to say neeko has too much damage in her kit does not erase the fact that her damage is on par with most mages in the mid lane. Who still have more safety than her.
And in fact has less dmg and scaling than quite a lot of mages in the mid lane. It's funny no1 complains about a morgana, who has more damage on all her abilities than neeko does. Yet for some reason, neeko has too much damage.
Seems like people like to complain for the sake of complaining.
You confuse Morgana's scaling with doing raw damage. Neeko is an imbalanced champion. Period. Remove the damage buff and she'll be another unplayable champ similar to Zoe.
Still Virgiñ1 votesDO you even know what scaling is?
Morgana has higher base damage and higher Ap scaling on all her abilities than Neeko.
Neeko needs rank 3 ulti in order to have 1 ability with higher base than morgana and it still has lower ap scaling.
Absolutely nothing is wrong with neeko, and you are complaining for the sake of it. Nothing more.
FixThisBSGame1 votes[{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-21T12:25:26.314+0000)
DO you even know what scaling is?
Morgana has higher base damage and higher Ap scaling on all her abilities than Neeko.
Neeko needs rank 3 ulti in order to have 1 ability with higher base than morgana and it still has lower ap scaling.
Absolutely nothing is wrong with neeko, and you are complaining for the sake of it. Nothing more.
Clearly I was correct. They reduced the damage on Neeko's Q for obvious reasons.
Still Virgiñ1 votesyeah you really have no clue at all.
GFREEMEN1 votesThanks for giving a good Poll
Malix Farwin1 votesThe only problem i see with Neeko is her values are a bit overtuned but at the same time so are brand's and no one seems to care.