When the mage updates happen

4NoxiousHours·Dec 31, 2015·3 votes·292 views

I am hoping to see that Riot has finally come to a conclusion with Zyra and do something for her. If they ignore her in the mage update, I believe her visual and passive will not be touched till the year of 2020.

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FioraWillCarryDec 31, 20151 votes

Who's Zyra ?

4NoxiousHoursDec 31, 20155 votes

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Who's Zyra ?

a type of plant that has not been watered since it's growth.

FioraWillCarryDec 31, 20151 votes

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a type of plant that has not been watered since it's growth.

LMAO! Good one.

MrBuffingtonDec 31, 20151 votes

I think they were looking at early next year, so it's probably going to get pushed to late spring, lol

4NoxiousHoursDec 31, 20151 votes

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I think they were looking at early next year, so it's probably going to get pushed to late spring, lol

HAHAHAH I get it.

MrBuffingtonDec 31, 20151 votes

I misread the title of the thread as "when does the mage update happen". mb, lol

ModKnightsKemplarDec 31, 20151 votes

What do you hope they do?

MY impression of Zyra, since that time she was pretty strong, is that she has incredible damage for how much cc she brings. Her ult is kind of a less useful Janna ult.

So I think her power is mostly in numbers, and not in having a meaningful identity as a champ. Your thoughts?

MrBuffingtonDec 31, 20151 votes

I think they'll do more to push the fantasy, although I hope they change her passive around.

ModKnightsKemplarDec 31, 20151 votes

I'm not sure what fantasy she's supposed to be, though... Is she damage? Is she high cc? Is she disengage/kiting?

4NoxiousHoursDec 31, 20151 votes

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I'm not sure what fantasy she's supposed to be, though... Is she damage? Is she high cc? Is she disengage/kiting?

She's like everything in one. But if you put her in melee range she will likely die.

MrBuffingtonDec 31, 20151 votes

She's supposed to be a plant mage, lol. I was picturing something more thematic than gameplay-related, like how they gave Graves an actual shotgun, a spell to match the cinematic, and seemed to tweak his kit around that, or how they gave Caitlyn huge "sniper" AA range when using her other spells.

I think as far as gameplay, though, she's a control mage, similar to Orianna or Azir, so she has a mix of damage and CC. I think, though, she's meant to be heavier on the CC side, so it'd be cool to look towards that.

Two areas I think could stand to be changed are her passive and her interaction with her plants. I think the real difficulty will be differentiating her from Azir or another control mage; most of the plant interactions I can think of basically are covered by what Azir does. Another difficulty is that these will probably be small to mid-sized reworks, since they're tackling so many at once, so I don't think they're doing a full rebuild of her kit.

I think one thing that would be cool for her plants is giving them more unique interactions, instead of just different ranges. Like, if instead of attacking, her Vine Lasher tethered to targets in range, damaging and slowing them for a second or two, then rooted them if they remained in the area for long enough.

Another thing that's annoying is how her long range plants are tied to her Q, which is her main nuke, so you can't strategically plant her thorn spitters at their max range and nuke the enemy at the same time. The range seems pretty underutilized.

CertainlyT was one of her original designers; I'm sure he'll come up with something crazy if given another crack at her

4NoxiousHoursDec 31, 20151 votes

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What do you hope they do?

MY impression of Zyra, since that time she was pretty strong, is that she has incredible damage for how much cc she brings. Her ult is kind of a less useful Janna ult.

So I think her power is mostly in numbers, and not in having a meaningful identity as a champ. Your thoughts?

Zyra's in game model looks like what Tahm spit out. Her late game is beyond BRILLIANT tho. But her passive is BEYOND USELESS.