Why do pure damage champions recieve so absurdly high scaling defenses?

Frontline Fury·Aug 9, 2019·1 votes·1,355 views

Ex. - builds PURE damage, can easily match any pure tank in terms of defensive stats.

Why do "all-in" champions have so absurdly high scaling defenses? Why do tanks (ex. , , ) have so extremely poor scaling health and defensive stats in comparison, when they have nowhere near the base damage or scaling abilities by comparison?

It's literally shaping the entire game - forcing non-damage dealers completely out of play - just so the damage dealers can afford to build full damage and survive a suicide bomber oneshot dive. Why is it kept like this? Why are we still in this burst damage / tanky assassin meta after three entire years?

6 Comments

JamareeAug 9, 20195 votes

Ummmm....no they don't? The only one of them that gets higher armor then any of the tanks you mentioned is Camille, and that's only base...which Taric's actually DOES outscale her because of the passive on his W?

They also all have the same general health at 2000 to 2100 except Fiora at 1995.

Daddy AntsAug 9, 20192 votes

Lol no they don't.

JbelsAug 9, 20191 votes

The reason why it feels like they never die is because when they do their jobs correctly, they don't. But that comes from using mobility/utility/stealth to block or dodge incoming damage. An assassin is a "Tank" in the same way a D&D 5E Monk with +5 Dex and + 5 Wisdom is a "Tank".

Frontline FuryAug 9, 20191 votes

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The reason why it feels like they never die is because when they do their jobs correctly, they don't. But that comes from using mobility/utility/stealth to block or dodge incoming damage. An assassin is a "Tank" in the same way a D&D 5E Monk with +5 Dex and + 5 Wisdom is a "Tank".

Uh, no. I'm pretty sure that the Zed Riven MasterYi that just took a Morgana Q to the face and stood there for 3 seconds being focused by half the enemy team before clicking R, flashing, deleting 2 champions and walking out didn't do their jobs through mobility and stealth. They face tanked the full combos of 3+ champions and got out of it alive because those three champions weren't playing burst assassins.

JbelsAug 10, 20192 votes

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Uh, no. I'm pretty sure that the that just took a Q to the face and stood there for 3 seconds being focused by half the enemy team before clicking R, flashing, deleting 2 champions and walking out didn't do their jobs through mobility and stealth. They face tanked the full combos of 3+ champions and got out of it alive because those three champions weren't playing burst assassins.

Bullshit. Not to be rude, but absolute horse shit that any of those characters got hit by a Morg Q and survived against a team of competent players.

Frontline FuryAug 11, 20191 votes

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Bullshit. Not to be rude, but absolute horse shit that any of those characters got hit by a Morg Q and survived against a team of competent players.

Well, i won't argue that you can't find competent players in Diamond 2. But still.

Look at the patch notes for 9.16. Nocturne gets... That's right. Damage buff and innate durability. More base armor. Because you know, assassins should be tanky so that they can build damage instead of defensive items.