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Do you want to improve? Basic game knowledge!

Theorex··5 votes·16,375 views

So recently I've been roaming the boards. Great story right?

I've noticed people have been talking (minority) about how High Elo Players basically flame lower elo players.

Most recent one was a post about how a Bronze player asked a Diamond Player some question.

The Diamond Player Replied with some very ambiguous answers and sounds sarcastic about most of it.

I do not really blame the high elo player honestly. I even do it every now and then, reason being is. You can tell someone how to do something 1,000,000 times and they still won't get it. Its really annoying to have to do that for everyone that PM's you on league. I would rather talk to my friend @Best_Girl_Emilia about why Emilia is the best girl in RE:ZERO since you know you will get to see her in Arc 4, Arc 5, and Arc 6 unlike Rem. Oh btw thats a spoiler.

But here are a few things that any Gold and below should learn. Hell low plats too.

1: Wave Control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scebDe41pG0

2: Understanding items in the game.

This is annoying because to explain items and explain there effectiveness its easier to just do this in game.

I am going to go over a few basic items that people should understand are better for what.

Void Staff = Strongest AP item for offensive Mid Lane Mages (AP) when the enemy has over 70 MR. Yes, 70. Thats literally 1 Defensive MR item for Brusier/Assassins/Tanks

Hydra's = give you a auto attack reset. Pretty basic knowledge.

Randuin's passive 10% crit reduction does stack.

Small things like that; I do not want to get into the ins and outs of every item because that itself is a discussion that would take a very long time to break down. This is something that you should slowly learn and transition into your "Do I need this item, or Do I want this Item" mentality.

Overall: Itemization in lower elo's is almost always damage orientated. But what If I told you all that you can do more damage with 2 damage items and 4 tank items?

(Ex. You get A Banshee's, Merk Treads, Qss, and Maw, with Bloodrazor and Blade on Yi.) Now that LB, Rumble, Karma, and Amumu do hardly any damage to you ontop of the fact that you have mostly MR Defensive items. The only person that is a threat to you will almost always run away because you are made to kill him, the ADC. Instead of having IE, BT, Zerk Grieves, BloodRazor, Blade of the ruined king, and deadmans. Where you get one shot by LB. Now you can survive LB and turn around and kill any of the other mages because they looked at you funny.

3: Mechanics

Mechanics vary for every champion.

Often times I watch my friends play. They go from champions like Yas to Graves to Shv to Ryze to Teemo to Xerath to Jinx to Karma to Darius.

That on its own is a problem. In that list I am good on 3 to 4 of those champions and I am a Plat 1 Diamond 5 player. So now imagine how good my friends in plat 5 and below are on all of those champions. The point is they are not.

Limit your pool FFS. Its fine to enjoy playing other champions, but in ranked work on either your favorite 2 or 3. Or best 2 or 3. Get good with them. Work on their mechanics. I can tell you right now that people jumble the mechanics for champions up all the time.

STICK TO 2 or 3 CHAMPIONS AT MOST. (I hate OTP's [One Trick Ponies] hence why I say 2 or 3)

4: Match-Ups

Instead of you saying "Oh ***** is OP" learn the match up.

Learn that champions Cooldowns, how that champions Ideally wants to fight you. Learn that champions ins and outs so well that you know that champion better than your best friend.

Why? Because if you know how that champion plays then you can teach yourself how to play against that champion.

5: Play as a team.

The importance of a 5 v 5 MOBA is to play as a team.

Once you understand your champion your opps. champions.

You can learn what is important for you to do with your team and when.

6: Never Stop improving.

No matter how good you are. No matter how much you won your lane or how bad you crushed your opps.

Look at the game.

Did you die more then 0 times? IF yes, then what could you have done to prevent that?

Did you have 10 CS a minute? If no, then what could you have done to get 10 CS a minute (realistically that is really hard to perform after about 30 minutes unless you are losing very hard)

Did you have 100% KP (Kill participation)? If no, then what could you have done to get to 100% KP?

Did you do the most damage, tank the most damage, have the most CS, have the most healing done, have the most neutral monsters killed, have the most towers taken, take the 50 gold the nexus offers to by your last item, etc etc etc. (Apply to perspective roles) If no, What can you do instead, or to improve.

Each one of those questions comes with a counter argument. I played a support that doesn't heal as much as raka. I played with Trick2g and didnt take a single tower. I played Zac vs Shv and she was just power clearing her jungle. But did you do the other thing that was important for each of those senarios?

If you work on this list, from steps 1 to 6. You will improve. Because those are the steps I took to get me from bronze to plat 1 (I'm gonna be Diamond again before the end of the season lol. Im just very lazy)

For anyone else giving out advice. If I missed something please just drop it off in the comments below.

10 Comments

jochimslagh2 votes

Thanks man![slayer-jinx-wink]

Theorex2 votes

How are your improvements coming along?

HALO INFINITE2 votes

Nice tips ty <3 [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Theorex1 votes

How are your improvements helping you?

Abdof1 votes

I'm lucky to have found your post, thank you very much!

Theorex1 votes

Let me know if my guide sort of helped you at all please :)

I am thinking about breaking this up into two different categories.

Basic.

Advanced.

Theorex1 votes

How is your improvements going?

ApocalypseHero41 votes

Absolutely, one-hundred percent agree, with all of the things that you have pointed out that people need to learn. However, I don't fully agree with your outlook on helping lower elo players. See, there is a difference between telling someone how to do something when they dont really want to learn and telling them how to do it when they really do want to learn. If the player has taken the time to write you and ask you about it....then chances are they genuinely want to learn and I believe high elo players should take at least a little bit of time to help them learn to ensure that the community continues to grow and produce great competition because without it growing and creating competition....well then the community will cease to exist. If the high elo player feels that they really aren't trying to learn, then he/she could at least take the time to give them a small tip, something simple....not tell them exactly how to do it but maybe tell them what to do to improve that skill and then wait and see if that player actually listens or just pisses the advice away. That way, if the player actually listens then you know they really want to learn....why not help them if they really are willing to listen and learn? However, if they piss the advice away and don't listen, then you didn't really waste your time because you only gave them a small tip for improvement, they didnt listen and so now you move on with your life and continue. I just feel that high elo players should take the time to help lower elo players that are genuinely interested in learning, willing to listen and willing to put in the work. That way they build a good solid community with them, help continue growing/improving the community and the high elo player will learn by answering the lower elo questions and giving them tips. I have found helping new players has helped me learn a lot about my playstyle and helped me grow as a player too.

So, if they are willing to learn, put in the work and listen.....why not help them out? I don't blame the high elo player for testing them to make sure they are genuinely interested in learning first but if they pass the test....why not help them? No point in just not helping anyone because of a few people. We should be helping people with less knowledge then us so this community continues growing and improving and becoming tighter knit.....not falling further apart, getting worse and becoming more of a headache than anything else. Just some thoughts.

Theorex1 votes

My only thing to this is.

Lets take the numbers of 3,000,000 and there are about 2% of players in diamond 5+.

There are about 60,000 players in Diamond 5+.

Lets take the rest of the community and divide them equally among the 60,000.

2,940,000/60,000= 49 people per D5+.

They can't actually fine tune EVERY single person to get them to D5 between RL and other activities. This is for the whole player base.

But in the event of being asked a question.

We can tell them advice or tell them the basics.

But when you get the same questions over and over it becomes really annoying to have to tell all of them the same advice over and over again.

Now I am not saying that High-Elo players shouldn't try to help out lower elo players. In fact they should like you said it breeds competition.

But there are streamers and guides on how to get better. Many of them saying the same things over and over. If you want personalized learning. Then find smaller streamers and ask them. What did you do.

End of the day. Peoples personalities show more than anything. If a player is going to help they are going to help. If a person doesn't want to then they wont.

Temmies1 votes

I know this is a old guide. But, it is still relevant and easy to understand. I'm helping a few people learn the game but, I jumped in talking about mechanics and how to cs and be aggressive in lane. When I didn't teach the basic, why do they need to cs and what is the importance of everything we do. This is a great guide and it has helped me out a lot. Thank you, I appreciate this. <3 GLHF

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