Why do you nerf Veigar's skillshots that players should be rewarded for landing them

Yma S·Oct 29, 2015·3 votes·628 views

Especially with today's terrible mobility creep

And not instead nerf the zero skill point and click ult with 250 / 375 / 500 (+ 100% AP)

14 Comments

Azirious MistakeOct 29, 20152 votes

Not every ability has to be a skillshot bro

Yma SOct 29, 20151 votes

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Not every ability has to be a skillshot bro

yes good nerf the shots that take skill to land

and not nerf the faceroll ability that is guaranteed damage

Guy Fox TeemoOct 29, 20151 votes

Q doesnt' take skill to land , its an incredibly fast projectile. W you just land your E (Which isn't hard) and just get an auto W hit off.

MarthianOct 29, 20151 votes

He's talking about his ult, that you just hover over someone and click for massive damage.

Shac NorrisOct 29, 20151 votes

stun any ability after that doesn't take any skill to land.

there i figured it out for you.

Bears Dont CareOct 29, 20151 votes

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yes good nerf the shots that take skill to land

and not nerf the faceroll ability that is guaranteed damage

He has his cage to help set up his combo. Some champions don't even get that and they are designated as assassins. Evelynn

Furthermore, Veigar gains more AP than other champions due to his Q, and the stacking mechanic is considered bonus AP which also stacks with Rabadon's no? As such, it makes sense for his AP ratios to be slightly lower to prevent him from being too strong. His skillshot is also very fast and has good range.

Now by no means do I think he deserved the nerf. Personally, I believe his design was perfect at the moment. It is just the way the cookie crumbles.

PDE5 InhibitorsOct 29, 20152 votes

Says we have terrible mobility creep. Says point and click should be nerfed.

I can't even....I feel like this post came straight outta Faux News.

Yma SOct 29, 20151 votes

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Says we have terrible mobility creep. Says point and click should be nerfed.

I can't even....

you don't "solve" mobility creep by encouraging zero skill faceroll to "counter" it

When your skillshots actually do hit when everyone on the planet has a fucking dash, you should be rewarded for it

PDE5 InhibitorsOct 29, 20151 votes

Actually point and click counters mobility. Since mobility will counter skills shots every time.

Yma SOct 29, 20151 votes

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mobility will counter skills shots every time.

If you're in bronze and can't telegraph movement sure

MidnightxPMCOct 29, 20152 votes

They gave him a huge buff by letting him get AP off assists. They should just take that away and leave him be.

MarthianOct 29, 20151 votes

Rather they don't because that was a huge issue for Veigar's reliability. Basically, you NEEDED to land the last hit on champions to get that sweet bonus AP, and that wasn't fun for Veigar, nor for his team.

If anything, he needs number reductions (maybe reduce the AP gain on kill/assists a bit. Ult base damage could probably be reduced as well.)