Removing The Brutalizer? Might as well delete Zed and Talon then, wtf?!

Indominus Blade··3 votes·6,840 views

Hello,

I am a diamond 3 Zed Talon player, who wanted to push for d1-master tier before season ends. But now that I've seen the pre-season 6 changes and the REMOVAL of item 3134 I have lost all motivation. Zed Talon without item 3134 will be absolutely useless and garbage. These two champions are 50% of my champion pool, if you remove item 3134 , you might as well delete these two champions!

item 3134 is my favourite item in this game, if you remove it, I WILL QUIT THIS GAME! I've played for 3 years now, the choice is yours riot.

24 Comments

Indominus Blade1 votes

OMFG... tripple Marskman settups will dominate so hard.

Sauce Captain3 votes

its still quite possible to die as a marksman against a zed/talon, I just played a game against that. You'll probably need a few games to relearn what will leave them instadead on zed specifically. Also death's dance isn't super useful without some kind of shielding/lifesteal so keep that in consideration.

Indominus Blade1 votes

You don't know what you are talking about. When these changes go through, Marskman will be too strong :)

Jamaree2 votes

They are decreasing the price of LW and giving it item paths.

Indominus Blade1 votes

doesn't matter, LW sucks vs Marksman and it will suck harder when changed.

Jamaree1 votes

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doesn't matter, LW sucks vs Marksman and it will suck harder when changed.

Why would LW be bad vs ADCs but not Brute? Please explain.

Indominus Blade2 votes

ADCs don't stack armour, LW is atm good vs armour stackers. With the upcoming change to LW, LW will only ignore BONUS ARMOUR, practically useless vs ADC. If you want to 1 shot ADC, you need damage that is good vs ADC, such as ad+flat ARP, but they will remove brutalizer and flat ARP items, making ad assassins useless.

Jamaree1 votes

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ADCs don't stack armour, LW is atm good vs armour stackers. With the upcoming change to LW, LW will only ignore BONUS ARMOUR, practically useless vs ADC. If you want to 1 shot ADC, you need damage that is good vs ADC, such as ad+flat ARP, but they will remove brutalizer and flat ARP items, making ad assassins useless.

But if they aren't building armor anyway, they are squishy which means you should still be able to one shot them :I

Indominus Blade1 votes

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But if they aren't building armor anyway, they are squishy which means you should still be able to one shot them :I

No, AD assassins 1 shot squishy atm because they can get FLAT ARP on items, do you even know how this game works? Flat ARP items get removed next seasons.

Jamaree1 votes

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No, AD assassins 1 shot squishy atm because they can get FLAT ARP on items, do you even know how this game works? Flat ARP items get removed next seasons.

I understand how the game works, but you really don't need that much armor pen to kill a champion with no real armor.

Done251 votes

The less armor someone had the BETTER flat pen was against them.

Done251 votes

And what if as a result they buff AD assassins? You wont be forced to armor pen stack anymore if Zed/Talon get stronger bases/scaling due to lack of armor penetration. Now you can do things like grab an early Hex Drinker or BotRK. Heck, flat AD reds+quints alone will make last hitting at the start easier.

Oerba No Naja1 votes

YEAH I WONT GET DIVED BY A BRUTA LVL 7 ZED ANYMORE THANKS RIOT :) try to main something else than tunnel vision killing machins .

NoBootsAllowed1 votes

there is a new item wich is almost the same as bruta.. it gives 25 ad 10 cdr but no armor pen.. but cost only 1100 and u can built into cleaver or youmuss.. youmuss ad got buffed it givies 65 ad insteed of 30 but no crit chance

Ralanr1 votes

You only use four champions?

Indominus Blade1 votes

Yes.

Ralanr1 votes

Doesn't that seem very limiting?

Indominus Blade1 votes

Yes, I can't play bot lane, but it comes with benefits, you become better at what you do. I can do really well top/mid, decent jungle, can't bot.

Ralanr1 votes

Sounds like my problem in blind pick. It's really not great.

SaltyKracka1 votes

Be my guest.

SwapShadows1 votes

why is riot giving ADCs more safety when they have a role designed to protect them.

riot fucks all assassins up by releasing champs like kindred/ekko etc and releasing BS items like this.

Indominus Blade1 votes

Season 6 will be terrible, but its ok, I will jump over to Overwatch :) I knew League would go down the drain when they hired Ghostcrawler and the game has gotten worse over the time as soon as he joined Riot.

RIP.

chiar1 votes

u quit yet

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