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Wukong and the recent changes

Just 4 Memes··5 votes·2,268 views

V8.6 Stats Attack damage growth increased to 4 from 3.2. Crushing Blow AD ratio increased to 10 / 20 / 30 / 40 / 50% AD from 10% AD at all ranks.

V8.14 Decoy Bug Fix: The decoy now correctly takes true damage from Conqueror. Nimbus Strike Base damage reduced to 65 / 100 / 135 / 170 / 205 from 65 / 110 / 155 / 200 / 245.

Now on the PBE it looks like they are also nerfing some of the go-to runes for Wukong:

Electrocute Damage :: 50-220 (+50%bAD)(+30%AP) >>> 30-180 (+40%bAD)(+25%AP) Cooldown :: 50-25 >>> 25-20

Cheap Shot Damage :: 15-40 >>> 8-40

Sudden Impact Lethality Bonus :: 10 >>> 7 Magic Penetration Bonus :: 8 >>> 6

On top of the nerfs to the runes and his E, some tanks are getting buffs. Lets also not forget Wukong is countered by just about every champion in lane as it is. I just feel like without the high damage output from Wukong, he isn't very useful. We need to decide whether he is an assassin, or a bruiser and update his kit appropriately. Right now it's looking like he won't be a very effective assassin anymore, but he also not a very effective bruiser. This is because he lacks what all bruisers have: sustain, slows, some have health % or true damage, or just higher base damage with lower scalings. I am not saying buff Wukong, just to change him.

I know some of you out there hate the champion, but if it were up to you to decide what direction Wukong should be taken what would that be?

6 Comments

Poldy Scarecrow2 votes

He should probably get the Aatrox treatment, for the same reasons. He's unpopular and only played alot when he's OP (which is rarely). His kit is outdated and pretty unhealthy considering the stealth and burst combo. He depends too much on items (which are the main reason he's strong this season imo) and his laning and jungle could use a bit of help. Pretty binary champ that also relies too much on items.

Wu is my fav champ in the game so I'm biased but I'd love if he got updated visuals (similar facial features but different build/armor/silhouette as well as new animations and VO/interactions). I dont like his metal-skirt thing at all but the red bands around his eyes are cool lol.

He should be more of a bruiser and I'd like if he has some kind of sustain too. His decoy could be related to his nimbus abilities (clone formed by vapor or clouds). I wouln't be opposed to them removing the decoy or stealth too in favor of a new mechanic. The newer champions all have something that makes them unique and Wu has alot of potential.

His lore alos has alot of potential too. We still didnt see how he became friends with Ahri yet. And him wanting to be a better fighter opens alot of possibilites to confront powerful champions. Sun Wukong is powerful as hell and I feel the lore team could really make league wu special from the ones across other MOBAS.

I probably skipped alot of stuff or didn't explain properly but I'm pressed for time. I read all the posts by Wu mains on the boards and I'm glad MapleNectar responded to one of bluemoon's comments recently/

PS: if he keeps cyclone he should have a dragon effect like Warring Kingdoms Garen does. At least on his Jade Dragon skin.

Salamencę2 votes

Wukong is unhealthy as fuck and deserves to be gutted into oblivion until he is reworked or duskblade/stormrazor are changed. I personally think it is the items and not his kit, but it still makes him as a whole unhealthy. His raw burst is absolutely absurd and with duskblade, stormrazor, and electrocute it is ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE to not delete a squishy with an E -> Q -> aa/ult combo. I have always loved the champ but due to duskblade and stormrazor, he needs to be gutted and stay gutted until those stupid items are reworked or removed. A rework wouldn't really help much unless they literally change every single ability. The gapclose into empowered auto attack that shreds armor is too strong with the current burst items. His stealth also synergizes too well with duskblade.

SwiftKitten881 votes

first off EVERY damage rune is getting nerfed... this isn't directed at wukong, this is directed at the absurd damage creep.

i also use 2 of those runes and celerity which is also getting nerfed

also MonkeyKing is seriously OP at the moment anyways.. especially after item 3095 was added

sporting a 53% in every and 52% in diamond +

he honestly deserves a complete revert of the 8.6 buffs they were completely unnecessary and made him into a huge issue for no reason at all.

i mean i can understand u getting mad about nerfs to your champ when your champ gets nerfed from a 49% winrate to a 46% winrate...

but even if u lose FIVE PERCENT winrate... MonkeyKing would STILL be perfectly fine and playable

Just 4 Memes2 votes

I feel like people mostly complain because they see what Wukong can be, but they don't actually play the champion enough to see how hard it is to get to that point and to stay relevant in the game when you are countered by so many champions in the lane. No sustain, #7 lowest base mana stat in the game, and your very item reliant to actually put out that damage. He has always been weaker early game and stronger mid game. Now people want his mid game nerfed as well.

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

I'd take him becoming a Bruiser, but the thing people don't really get is that it's possible to have it both ways. Wukong is a pretty bursty champ and Divers are not 100% against burst, just less then what an Assassin gets. Currently his meta is going full AD and ignoring the parts of his kit that would be beneficial to a bruiser, then focusing on all his up front damage. That kind of play CAN still be used, but make a few trades here and there to allow for more bruiser benefits. Look at Camille, She was presented as an Assassin like Diver on release, building bursty but having different tools to help her survive a fight. I don't see why Wukong can't be a Diver like that, making it so no one will be out a main because of a rework. Even Riot doesn't WANT to rework him to get rid of play styles, only give him more options to work with then the "one true build" everyone likes to think he has.

VoraciousX1 votes

Crushing Blow AD ratio increased to 10 / 20 / 30 / 40 / 50% AD from 10% AD at all ranks.

A 40 base damage nerf to his E and a 20-40 damage nerf to electrocute and sudden impact is small fries compared to a buff of this magnitude. Riot wants him to be a bruiser, they only buff his assassin like damage output as that's the only thing holding him above water atm. He's never felt like a bruiser to me though, he's always had assassin tendencies even before duskblade existed.

I want him to be a bruiser like he's supposed to be so I quit dying despite flashing, and shunpoing all over the map to get away from the bastard. I'd also like for his ult to be all frontloaded and only sweep in a wide arc in front of him with a windup so that I can actually outplay him.

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