LS says Lissandra is oppressive, but I'm like are you sure that's not junglers? Damage wise?

taleofsonata·Feb 8, 2019·3 votes·939 views

Lissandra on her own in lane has a very low kill pressure and require to poke down her laner. But thing is most of her opponent death isn't cause by lissandra herself but by the amount of damage a jungler ditch out to them. Have you see Lee Sin, Camille, xin zhao, Kayn base damages? With no items a carry jungler can 100-0 a laner with barely any effort. So where does Lissandra being oppressive is? All she brings is CC and utility to junglers.

How many times have you seen Lissandra kill her lane opponent with the jungler helps? For me too many times, all she needs is to cc her opponent to oblivion for the jungler to just 1 shot them.

6 Comments

KhabithFeb 8, 20191 votes

You want some more jungle exp nerfs?

taleofsonataFeb 8, 20191 votes

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You want some more jungle exp nerfs?

I want base damages of jungler nerfs, not exp but carry jungler needs to have items to do damage just like any laners. I don't think it is fair for lee sin to do this much damage with just 2 long swords. A Jungle item stat wise brings nothing besides smite, and I'm talking about 2nd jungle items. Why the heck can Lee sin or camille and other carries jungler can 100-0 me at any phase of the game? With base items or no items.

boricCentaur1Feb 8, 20191 votes

Ummm what you said why lissandra is oppressive like are you trolling or do you think that being oppressive means you must be able to 100 to 0 since that is not the case. Lissandra can very easily poke down her opponents in lane and has a very save laning phase because of aftershock and has great cc like what part of that is not oppressive. Also the only jungler you listened with high base damage is lee sin and lee sin has high base damage since he is suppose to be good early like if you die in a 1v1 vs a kayn with no items you have to be afk since he does like nothing in a 1v1 compared to most junglers.

taleofsonataFeb 8, 20192 votes

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Ummm what you said why lissandra is oppressive like are you trolling or do you think that being oppressive means you must be able to 100 to 0 since that is not the case. Lissandra can very easily poke down her opponents in lane and has a very save laning phase because of aftershock and has great cc like what part of that is not oppressive. Also the only jungler you listened with high base damage is lee sin and lee sin has high base damage since he is suppose to be good early like if you die in a 1v1 vs a kayn with no items you have to be afk since he does like nothing in a 1v1 compared to most junglers.

Do you even know what OPPRESSIVE MEANS? Do you want a video to explain what oppressive means?

Play a champion with no dashes against a range champion like vayne. You have no way of killing her, or walking up to her. Everytime you would get close to her she would push you away and poke you down endlessly, while getting stronger and stronger than you. This is OPPRESSIVE, Lissandra is the opposite of oppressive. She is UNINTERACTIVE, because she doesn't want to fight you and instead just wants to farm and poke you down, while waiting for jungler.

Oppressive= Dominance Uninteractive= Safetyness

boricCentaur1Feb 8, 20191 votes

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Do you even know what OPPRESSIVE MEANS? Do you want a video to explain what oppressive means?

Play a champion with no dashes against a range champion like vayne. You have no way of killing her, or walking up to her. Everytime you would get close to her she would push you away and poke you down endlessly, while getting stronger and stronger than you. This is OPPRESSIVE, Lissandra is the opposite of oppressive. She is UNINTERACTIVE, because she doesn't want to fight you and instead just wants to farm and poke you down, while waiting for jungler.

Oppressive= Dominance Uninteractive= Safetyness

Ok your trolling got it. Like you are talking about annoying not oppressive vayne is not a oppressive champion cait and draven are both way more oppressive, like oppressive means you put a lot of pressure on the opponent like the meaning is in the fucking word your oppressed vs a oppressive champion. Also wtf is this you said she pokes you down but that is some how not fighting like that doesn't make sense.

iDarkWindFeb 8, 20191 votes

And he is completly right. Not only you can't trade with her if she has Aftershock, she's incredibly good in teamfights thanks to the CC she provides and her new passive, but also has a nice setup for ganks. The worst part is that you don't even need to be that good to make her work, is disgusting.

They either nerf her or target Aftershock. I have never understood why does Aftershock has a scaling off HP+AP+AD on his damage part and no scaling on his defensive stats. It makes NO-FCKING-SENSE.