Change my view: support is useless in bronze

XinZhao2WinNhao··2 votes·797 views

A support is the most useful during laning phase to get their ADC ahead, but the problems with bronze is that games always last 45+ minutes, so even if an ADC starts off 3/17, after 45 minutes they're going to be able to get on the same footing as the ADC who starts off 17/3. Honestly just forget about early game champs. Only pick late game champs in bronze like Vayne, Yi, Jax, Nasus, Veigar, etc. Early game champs are basically useless in bronze.

I've also seen so many ADCs start of 7/0 and then throw and end up 7/10. Usually they're Ashe or Jinx players but not always. Supporting and helping get an early lead on the ADC is usually worthless in bronze when you could have an extra full build carry at 45 minutes.

Also a lot of supports in bronze don't know what it means to support, they end up building AP sona anyways, so why not just get them to play an actual AP champ that is useful rather than an AP sona.

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Talisid2 votes

Everybody seems to think that support is useless at "Insert any rank below challenger here" which is based on whatever rank they happened to be.

If all games at bronze go to 45+ minutes that should be long enough for even a support to get enough gold for most of a build so pick your Mage-Support of choice ( Brand Velkoz Zyra Annie ) rush that item 2301 and then build full AP and carry teamfights like you're a midlaner.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

Brand and Velkoz require skillshot landing which bronze can't do.

Zyra ends up being 0/10 feeding.

Annie is the only real champ that can carry here, but built AP not support.

But honestly if you want to melt turrets just get another ADC or late game splitpush bruiser like Trynd, Yi, Jax.

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Landing skillshots is a skill, but so is dodging skillshots. Which is why Blitzcrank is very good in lower elos. Also, Rylai's exist so landing skillshots aren't as hard.

An Unseen Rengar2 votes

supports are useless in bronze. I would play support rengar and 1v9 the game as the "support"

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

Honestly best bronze comp is Vayne Jax Yi Nasus and Veigar.

I hate my ADC1 votes

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A support is the most useful during laning phase to get their ADC ahead

That only depends on which support champion we are talking about. Janna, Lulu, Sona and many supports are at their best during mid to late game.

Also a lot of supports in bronze don't know what it means to support, they end up building AP sona anyways, so why not just get them to play an actual AP champ that is useful rather than an AP sona.

What do you mean by AP Sona exactly? You are supposed to build AP items like item 3504 item 3174 item 3020 item 2301 item 3100 item 3165item 3060 and even item 3089 as a Sona. item 3190 item 3222 and item 3110 are situational picks depending on your team, their team and the current gold disparity.

Everything on Sona scale on her AP. Her heal, her damage, her slow, her movespeed, her shield and her damage reduction.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

By AP Sona I mean

item 3089 item 3285 item 3285 item 3100 item 3146 item 3152

At that point you could just play an actual APC

I hate my ADC3 votes

2 Luden's Echo and 2 Hextech items?

I guess I should be happy I'm not in Bronze...

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

Well if it was Akali and not Sona it would actually be a useful build.

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Hextech passives don't stack, and Luden's passive doesn't stack. You could get something like a Zhonya's, Void Staff, Abyssal Scepter, or heck even Morello's for cheap CDR

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

Ludens gets more movement speed and the gunblade is for the spellvamp while the other hextech has the better active

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Speaking of movement speed, why not Sorcerer's Shoes? It's cheaper and gives you more movement speed.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

it also doesnt give 100 ap

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If you're replacing it for the last item, sure, but not having boots in mid game sucks. It also gives 15 Mpen, which is a huge damage boost against squishies.

hunterspec1 votes

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By AP Sona I mean

item 3089 item 3285 item 3285 item 3100 item 3146 item 3152

At that point you could just play an actual APC

passives stack now?

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

That is the correct view and it does not need to be changed.

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