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Get rid of the "naming and shaming" designation for public streamers and YouTubers

XinZhao2WinNhao·3/8/2016, 5:13:06 PM·68 votes·2,896 views

If someone clicks "publish" or "stream", they are opening their material up for criticism and granting viewers the right to do so. in fact, I believe that as a part of a critical thinking modern society, it should not only be a right to criticize/comment on published materials, but that it should be highly encouraged to do so. If you don't want your work criticized, then you should just set it on private for you and your friends to view, and that's perfectly okay. But if you choose to publish, realize that the word "publish" comes from the same roots as "public", and the public should be allowed to make comments on published works.

If you publicly stream yourself trolling/AFKing in game, people should absolutely have the right to call out your stream in public. Even better, you don't even have to worry about being falsely accused, as the proof is right there in the video/stream that will either exonerate you or attest to your guilt.

And the amount of viewers it gets shouldn't affect anything. A public video with 1 view is still public, public with 1000000000 views is also public.

You have the same amount of right to criticize a large budget movie like Gods of Egypt or The Avengers as you do to criticize a low budget indie movie that might only have 20 viewers, as long as it's published.

EDIT: I am not trying to get anyone banned! I just want transparency of discussion about the behaviors of streamers, because I believe that this will make streamers be more likely to act better on stream and be better role models to the community. This will also allow people to discuss and debate what they like or don't like about the current behavioral system and be able to give legit examples.

18 Comments

FrankerX3/8/2016, 6:47:25 PM8 votes

its funny how i got downvotes for complaining about mods removing my thread where i asked something about sky williams, but this thread gets upvotes. not that i dislike this thread i support it but it wont happen, it feels like that would be work for mods and mods are lazy. otherwise they wouldnt have removed my thread. if they just read it, they'd see its a normal thread (but i have to say after my complain they un-banned my thread so np)

DeynaTaggerung3/8/2016, 6:44:24 PM5 votes

Did you actually get a post removed for calling out a streamer? or is this just a philosophical idea

BeMyFriendPlease3/8/2016, 11:03:34 PM2 votes

Hate to say this... but this would be true if this was not owned by a company that can dictate their own terms of use.

SmokedAlmonds3/8/2016, 5:22:55 PM2 votes

There is nothing to call out in those cases. They made it public already and anyone who sees it already know and doesn't care.

If you want to report the behavior submit a support ticket. If you want to discuss it do it in the comments of their videos.

Chespin20133/9/2016, 5:52:57 PM1 votes

totally agree I'm sick and tired of streamers like Uberdanger getting away with viewbotting on twitch just because he is a famous youtuber

Anrui3/9/2016, 6:36:14 PM1 votes

I agree with you OP, but the main reason that anti-naming and shaming rules exist isn't so you can't criticize people or call out someone doing something bad but it's more to keep people from taking action like DDos attacking them or attempting to hack them and do other malicious things to them.

Iqqi3/9/2016, 10:19:29 PM1 votes

I completely agree. The problem is Riot themselves.

The honest truth is Riot bans the absolute minimum of players they have to to keep the community together and maintain some veil of legitimacy. Anything more than than is a loss in potential revenue.

This is why it will never happen. Riot only punishes the most extreme users who continue to violate the rules are a repetitive basis. They do not ban people based on one game, one day, or even one week. Go read Riot's FAQ page about their punishment system. They state "We dont punish you because you are having a bad day or a bad week". Its literally written out. You have to be bad for a long time. You are suggesting that Riot punish people on their first offense which is something they are not comfortable doing because as I said above, it would lead to a net loss in revenue.

Malfini3/9/2016, 10:41:15 PM1 votes

There is a function on the in-game GUI to remove the names of players... I do it every time so there are less distractions on the screen when playing.

lolptwo3/11/2016, 4:43:44 PM1 votes

The only problem is that it's part of their player protection in their terms of service. So in order to do this they will have to re write that ToS but also it can jeopardize player safety which obviously has to be a #1 on their priority.

I agree with you though, it is kind of silly since 90% of the time. If you want to find the troll someone is talking about, you can just search up match history and it's extremely obvious who they are talking about.

Also yes the Tribunal does need to come back and soon.

Spaceman5pff3/8/2016, 10:51:08 PM1 votes

I call out WingsofSaltx on here all the time and never got removed for it.

blueberrypancake3/9/2016, 2:15:40 AM1 votes

I dunno

From a personal perspective I feel that especially on the internet where you can go from well known to being nothing in a week, unless completely deplorable such as publicly saying get gunned in the street to a stranger (he might have had reason to be aggravated but when taken in context, like bruh, that is just sickening) or pulling a LTG (street fighter guy, probably the most toxic person in the world) then I hope they get out of whatever community they are in. For someone that just dodges a game, shows a little bit too much skin (I am not supporting people who abuse it), or gets salty once and doesn't do something directly to a particular person or group of people then I feel it isn't necessary.

From Riots perspective they have no reason whatsoever to do what you are saying. Riot has a ton of money, and wasting money it on money that can harm search traffic of their game rather than protecting content creators is unnecessary. Even if they do it, they'd have a very objectively good business reason to do so (with clear signs for profit).

Unstoppable Monk3/9/2016, 5:31:41 AM1 votes

"."'s 17 day hiatus from league was clearly pro players being harsh critics of his high level playstyle of support katarina and teemo. We all should be ashamed of ourselves and our inability to support such a skilled player that is beyond a pro level.

Perhaps he will eventually return to league after making some pasta while playing a game of smash, gunning down his opponent like the degenerate they are.

But in all seriousness, I'm not sure that we should focus on the negative people as a topic for the boards or give attention to people that are jerks that happen to stream LoL. I'd rather not give those people views for $$$.

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