So I just tested a new build for Mordekaiser and then it hit me...

Malicious Metal··12 votes·1,896 views

https://www2.pic-upload.de/img/33942833/mordeeee.jpg

That build looks suspiciously Juggernaut-y, doesn't it?

And after checking some other Juggernaut builds like Illaoi and Yorick I've come to realize that this isn't too far off from what a "Magic/Hybrid Juggernaut" should be building. it has a perfect mix of offense and defense that balances itself out and allows the champion to maximize damage by tapping into strong AD and Ap scalings and using item 3135 and item 3151 to provide all the necessary damage to remain relevant throughout the game.

Currently Mordekaiser has the problem of being too efficient when building pure Damage and this type of build seems to be better suited for a Revenant King rather than a build that looks suspiciously like a Veigar build.

Anyways, just something I wanted to share. I think if Mordekaiser gets a VGU there's already pretty solid itemization for a durable Magic damage threat like himself.

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UnboundHades4 votes

you should go to the hospital if you got hit by morde he has a dangerous weapon

Ahristocats4 votes

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Currently Mordekaiser has the problem of being too efficient when building pure Damage and this type of build seems to be better suited for a Revenant King rather than a build that looks suspiciously like a Veigar build.

for his defense, it's because of the meta

in the lethality meta your build would be superior to my item 3151 item 3135 item 3041 item 3089 build

also Rip

item 3116

Khâmul2 votes

depends,i need rylai because bonobos like taking flashy champs but without being a frontlane to CC XD. the only reason i take it is for slow,the rest is garbage since its hard to get a kill if your opponent's brain is not dead

FireDrizzle1 votes

I would prefer deadmans or righteous glory to steraks honestly. I only played Morde a few times but obviously being able to reach and stick to your target is important. Also I dont think much of steraks, the shield is so shortlived, I only get it on Sion and Nasus now.

Malicious Metal1 votes

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I only played Morde a few times

If you were to play him more you'd come to realize that Steraks is literally the best defensive item for Mordekaiser. He has the highest base ad in the game, making the stats really worth it and the double shielding really helps you survive the blunt force of any engagement.

FireDrizzle1 votes

I forgot the base ad actually. You made me want to test builds on Morde.

SuperCosmicHobo1 votes

Also, if you can improvise in team fights. Gargoyle stone plate also is a good pick for defensive Steraks.

SuperCosmicHobo1 votes

Morde's 3rd hit is so hard, you literally smash an adc with just that last hit. My improvise to that Void staff is probably a lich bane. 1st hit is strong, second hit is weak, third hit kills an Adc. To me, Lich bane is too hard of a pass item on champs who need autos to deal damage... I wonder if item 3504 works on Mordekaiser lol with his e... You use it on ult gank

KoKoboto1 votes

If I do go tankier on Morde I do try to invest into magic penetration. Just feels nice getting through resistances, getting more healing from ultimate, getting more shield, and taking advantage of his high base damages.

Malicious Metal1 votes

I end up with 54/50 flat pen and either 35 or 40% resistance shred.

Khâmul1 votes

for me,core: item 3065 item 3151 item 3116
Situationnal:item 3135 item 3146( i never have hextech and voidstaff in the same build,depending if there's sustained fights or not) item 3053(stopped building it but why not) item 3075 item 3143 item 3157(heavy ad team,for zhonya if there's a high burst ,it lets me time to dodge it and recover hp) item 3020 item 3111 item 3047 item 3089 (if too fed)item 3194(rare,only vs full ap+dot commp) item 3285 item 3102 (very rare) .

I'm playing morde because it's morde,but i'm not enjoying this mess. let's hope the rework will come soon.

the hextech+spirit combo will give high sustain(also comes from liandris,which is amplified by rylai): good against a lot of tanks since they'll never kill you

the voidstaff +rylai + liandris : i use them mainly when i know i can't reach the backlane, so I can melt the tank and at the same time,have good sustain and moderate damages.

If you manage to go full ap with a rabadon,you'll just wreck people with one E XD

SanKakU1 votes

Dude, Spirit Visage is my jam on Veigar support.

SzGamer2271 votes

Why not Abyssal Mask? Veigar would get more mileage out of the magic amp aura than the healing steroid...

######...unless you're just joking and you don't actually build SV Veigar support...

SanKakU1 votes

Yeah, new Abyssal Mask is great on Veigar for sure. But before it was an item, SV was my go to for MR on him.

Actually, I usually just rush IBG and then figure out the rest from there on Veigar support. Veigar in other positions though is another matter.

Floupi1 votes

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Erockandroll1 votes

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What about this ? item 3078 item 3053 item 3053 item 3053 item 3053 item 3009

How did I not notice earlier that the 30% base AD is not unique?

I'm not much of a mord player, but try it, and let me know how well it works.

Vallalan1 votes

wouldnt a rylais instead of steraks be too good to pass up. sure you sacrifice the shield, but the rylais/liandry's burn on ult is insanely good considering how long it lasts.

Spoofghoul1 votes

your build misses about 3 or soitem 3053 and aitem 3078

PopcornBunni

Can item 3146 item 3152 work on the same build? The spellvamp from gunblade is indispensable, but Morde really needs that added mobility. I know the actives obviously take each other's ccoldown, but even with that in mind, could it work?

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