Farsight Alteration is the most disgustingly OP ward ever ... and people still dont use it.

Farsight Alteration is the most disgustingly OP ward ever

I disagree, the old Yellow trinket upgrade was more OP. It had comparable cooldown on charges and the wards were invisible.

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Title.

I use it almost every game as a top laner. It's great, amazing for splitpushing.

Though if your a support/jungler I would understand why you don't take it.

Most OP ward ever? No. That title belongs to the old yellow trinket upgrade.

Most OP ward available?

I'd agree

its great, i'd love if teammates would help me warding the whole map, but the yellow trinket is still useful like if you're playing as a champ who can ward hop or if you have tp

I feel like this is what Riot did to compensate everyone who did remember to upgrade their wards at Level 9. Now you're able to take a free upgrade at 9 that's far better than the normal thing everyone else took.

It may be op, but it's also the only viable trinket besides Oracle Alteration. The yellow trinket has an absurdly long cooldown/recharge time for like, the first 15 levels, and the duration the wards last are pathetic. I had a game last night where I was being camped, and my jungler complained I wasn't warding enough when it's like... all I can do is place a pink, and a 60 second ward every 3 minutes. I'm trying my best to preserve myself here, despite getting dove 4 times, and yet Riot wanted to take away sight wards for absolutely no reason in compensation that they nerf yellow trinket, further hindering our sight.

I buy it most of the time. It is extremely useful, but less so when you are playing more competent teams.

against any team that is fairly competent, those wards get cleared away pretty fast. That's not to say it isn't useful; just that it's only OP when your foes refuse to clear out the 1 hp visible wards.

I noticed that ever since they decided to make warding a "team effort" by removing the green wards there has been an extreme drop in vision. As a support player vision control was a major part of what I did. Last season denying enemy vision was what won games, but in this new season there is already an extreme lack of warding making it harder to further deny vision because I've found that 90% the places that I would usually find a ward aren't warded. This makes pointless to have because whenever I do grab it I usually end up wasting it on areas that should have been warded but weren't.

With the you can get wards in areas without the enemy knowing where you are and since they dont have a time limit the ward can basically last the entire game. It is easily the most OP thing in the game so use it while you can because an item this good is sure to be nerfed in the future.

As an ADC i use it pretty much every game, actually, maybe even as a mid if i have a champ who needs a lot of vision for functioning properly (Like Lux)

Sometimes it is better for the enemy not to know when you spot them . .

If they made the trinket be 60cd and 180 duration by late game, yellow trinket would be more desirable

When you are winning it is amazing because the enemy can't push up and take them out but when they can it doesn't do much.

I use . They are silly broken

This thing is legit amazing. I've given up the red trinket/upgrade in almost every game because the vision this thing provides is amazing. I've had games where the enemy team doesn't pay attention to bushes and I have their entire jungle warded for 5+ minutes.

Not to mention the amazing objective control blue trinket gives you. Just plop one in the back of each pit and it was stay there until the enemy team starts the Baron/Herald/Drag.

I think people will use it more once they realize how ridiculous those wards really are.

w> If you place over 193 in a game and they do not get destroyed the game crashes. I tried it with some friends trying to get sion to 50k hp and the game crashed with 193 up on our side and about 89 on their side

Me and 2 other on a team had it once, was the game with the most vision ever for me.

Not gonna lie I had never used it till I saw a thread about it. I didn't realize they lasted forever and had no limit. Now I get it on everybody. I can fill up our jungle with wards that rarely get cleared and sit there a good portion of the game. I love it. I'm wondering how noticeable the coming nerf will be.

Upgraded yellow trinket last season was more OP...and still no one got it. Scrubs gonna scrub, making trinkets all newb friendly and they'll still fk it up.

If everyone used blue, the opposing team starts seeing your wards and delete it.

It's only strong because no one uses it.

The problem is that blue trinket only offers you 1 weak and visible ward every 45 seconds. Which means if your whole team switches to blues, you're going to have a hard time securing vision around dragon and baron fights. You would need your support to be really smart on their sightstone charges to keep vision around in the area. Despite how weak the yellow trinket is atm, it still offers better ward coverage for objective fights than blues.

Also, blues are so easy to clear. I've had games where three people on my team (including me) have switched over to blues and were warding whenever it was off CD. Still 90% of our map was dark. Honestly the new blue trinket was probably designed to be like the new Frost Queen's Claim. You use it to scout out an area before you get there. It has a lower CD so you can scout more often. And that's why it's actually bad if your just relying on these blue wards for vision.

The fundamental problem is that we have no other options since green wards have been taken out of the shop and their duration nerfed on sightstone and the pretty underwhelming trackers knife. You can only put down 1 pink at a time, they're not invisible, and often times, around mid game, you won't even have an item slot for a pink, which pretty much leaves no other option but blues since yellow trinket is absolute garbage. But blue trinket relies too heavily on the other team being bad, which isn't healthy gameplay.

[[I will admit sometimes up against teams who don't clear wards, you can light up their jungle for a while until someone takes a stroll through all the bushes and completely destroys your ward coverage in less than a minute.]]