"Hold down to your buffs!" - Aatrox

Nightmist Dark··1 votes·708 views

Meddler - 5 months ago

Yeah, Aatrox's ult is not as satisfying as an ultimate should be and that's something I'd like to see us address at some point. Two attack speed steroids on the same kit diminishes the amount either's felt, especially when one of them's variable (Olaf suffers from this problem too). Splitting the ability's power between a PBAOE nuke and steroid also leaves both feeling somewhat unsatisfying when balanced. To top it off, the increased attack range is certainly useful, but not sufficiently different to really shake up his play while it's active (compare it to Kayle's E for example).

A PBAOE fear would feel great for the Aatrox player by contrast and has some decent grounds for a thematic tie in. It's very much a tank ability though and putting that sort of ability on a character that also expects to have all of a fighter's strengths has been pretty problematic in the past on game health/balance grounds (see J4, Zac, Wukong at various times). I could see an argument for reworking Aatrox into a tank (first into the fight and all), personal feeling though is that a fighter's both what his theme's a better match for (he'll personally cut you down, rather than primarily setting up his team to do so). Fighter's also his current playstyle and where possible maintaining what people currently like about a champion's definitely something to strive for. Curious to hear other people's thoughts on tank versus fighter though just in case I'm making some poor assumptions here.

Also, just as a general note, this isn't any sort of indication of an Aatrox rework or upcoming changes to his ult's functionality. He's overall in an ok spot (balance might or might not need adjusting, that's just number tweaking though) and there are a lot of champions with a much greater need for ability overhauls. Thought this was an interesting discussion though and wanted to get involved in the conversation.

source: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/alR9fGRR-can-we-replace-aatroxs-ultimate-steroid-with-an-aoe-fear?show=flat&comment=000c

any news in a small buff or number tweaks for Aatrox ? that point blank fear sounds good after all.

on another note, how about moving while in stasis? sucks that many times that i die just need to see them waiting to kill me again once I'm back up.

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LilxPaprika1 votes

item 3025 item 3115 item 3124 item 3156 item 3083 item 3158

^believe it or no this could be a strong aatrox build^

here's what would need to happen however: item 3025 would need a way to buy it for less mana: http://i.imgur.com/yYNBdOk.jpg item 3115 a way to lifesteal off nashor's http://i.imgur.com/rqBxuYC.jpg if you build it using item 3113 item 3124 Improvements to rageblade http://i.imgur.com/xmWKooQ.jpg Can read more about this rageblade QOL change/Buff suggestion here: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/wrEwrWEm-rageblade-iteration-5ish

Nightmist Dark1 votes

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item 3025 item 3115 item 3124 item 3156 item 3083 item 3158

^believe it or no this could be a strong aatrox build^

here's what would need to happen however: item 3025 would need a way to buy it for less mana: http://i.imgur.com/yYNBdOk.jpg item 3115 a way to lifesteal off nashor's http://i.imgur.com/0mD942x.jpg item 3124 Improvements to rageblade http://i.imgur.com/xmWKooQ.jpg Can read more about this rageblade QOL change/Buff suggestion here: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/wrEwrWEm-rageblade-iteration-5ish

yeah, unless Riot can make new items to buff certain champs, which is a good option too.

LilxPaprika1 votes

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yeah, unless Riot can make new items to buff certain champs, which is a good option too.

ya sorry if i didn't comment on your suggestions. Could also go with: item 3078 item 3060 item 3124 item 3115 item 3143 item 3111

its like you're saying though

this isn't any sort of indication of an Aatrox rework or upcoming changes to his ult's functionality. He's overall in an ok spot (balance might or might not need adjusting, that's just number tweaking though)

I think the issue is more item oriented when it comes to melee bruiser/fighters that rely on auto attack for damage. they don't have good auto amplification since its difficult for them to incorportate enough critical strike into their build. If all you have are 3 crucial seconds to try and get 2 crits off. you'll need 50% crit chance. except I would rather have 2 smaller crits with 40% - 50% crit than 1 big one with just 20% crit chance.

I addressed this in this thread

Nightmist Dark1 votes

i was thinking how about while in statis he emits a pulsing aura that slows enemy champions by 50%? if enemy champions stay near waiting for the kill it opens them for a counter assault.

it could work like a zoning move as well.

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