Pantheon: AD vs ArPen runes

Darth Valer··1 votes·854 views

I've always wondered where could I apply ArPen runes and good ol' Pantheon came to mind since he's said to be in such a sinergy with that stat. Thus I'll compare a 15 AD (marks + quints) asset vs a 10 Arpen + 8 AD (8 ArPen marks + 1 AD mark and 3 Quints) one. I'll consider Martial Mastery (+4 AD), Brute Force (+10 AD at 18), Warlord (+5% bonus AD), Devastating Strikes (+6% ArPen and MPen). I'll make up two scenarios, one for lv. 3 ganks and one for lv. 9 (midgame) skirmishes. I only use him as a Jungler so, I'll analyze for his build in that role.

LV. 3, Q,W,E at rank 1, item 1039 only item, 60 base AD, opponent has 40 armor.

The full combo I'll assume is: Q->W->AA->E->Q (not critting), which deals [W magic damage is not taken into account] 65 + 1.4 bAD + 60 + 1.0 bAD (AA)+ 80 + 3.6 bAD + 65 + 1.4 bAD = 270 + 7.4 bAD

AD RUNES bAD = 23 ~; ArPen = 6%; Combo deals: 440 dmg; Mitigated damage = 320 dmg

ArPen RUNES bAD = 15 ~; ArPen = 10 + 6%; Combo deals: 380 dmg; Mitigated damage = 298 dmg

AD deals 7% more damage = 22 real dmg

LV.9, Q rank 5, W rank 1, E rank 2, item 3707 item 1001 item 3134 item 1037 , 75 base AD, opponent has 70 armor.

The full combo will deal 665 + 7.4 bAD

AD RUNES bAD = 121 ~; ArPen = 20 + 6%; Combo deals: 1.560 dmg; Mitigated damage = 1070 dmg

ArPen RUNES bAD = 112 ~; ArPen = 30 + 6%; Combo deals: 1.494 dmg; Mitigated damage = 1100 dmg

ArPen deals 3% more damage = 30 real dmg

TL;DR: It seems AD runes work slightly better in the early stages of the game while ArPen begin to get better (by minimum proportions) in the mid-game. When the game goes further on, 10 ArPen becomes quite meaningless against tanks and slightly armored squishies (item 3157 item 3026 ), where item 3071 & item 3035 play the main role (BC full stacks + LW + Devastating Strike grant 55% Armor Penetration !!!).

Aaaand, yea, I probably stated the obvious. Just wanted to put these calculations on "paper" and share with someone who might be interested. Hope I didn't make mistakez.

1 Comments

Dreadlocks1 votes

Armor pen is best early.. the more armor pen you have and the less armor they have the more damage you do. I personally feel armor pen runes have fallen out of popularity on a lot (not all) of champions because minions and monsters scale with HP now and not resistances.. meaning.. your armor pen will not help you farm.

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