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Fix bot lane.

Newhook·5/2/2017, 3:01:51 AM·37 votes·1,740 views

Bot lane is way too valuable. People get too much out of camping the shit out of it. You can shut down any ADC so easily and make their time to scale a lot more if you just camp. It's insane.

When I say camp, I mean party. Top TP's to lane, mid roams down, Jungle too. It sucks because I feel like I'm playing with the handicap of the other team ALWAYS doing this tactic and my team doing everything but this. I'm a bit salty about this as it's just my bad luck, but even so. If bot lane gets camped, they lose. Hard. They lose the ability to farm, to kill and they don't have a turret. Then they're weaker in fights and you have no damage.

There isn't a way to play against this. You can ward all you want but it doesn't keep the top laner from TP'ing, the jungler from diving and the mid laner from being backup. The no resistances on the tower and having the first turret gold is terrible. If you're not willing to make bot lane less valuable, make it less punishing for there to be a constant 2v5 or 2v4 bot lane. It makes Support and ADC terrible to play.

20 Comments

Chromatic Eagle5/2/2017, 3:28:36 PM4 votes

You can argue that having the rift herald update will help relieve pressure from the bot lane.

alfavhunter5/2/2017, 3:24:38 AM4 votes

there is most definatly a way to play vs this

adc+support go into the jungle then you put some1 with waveclear bot

example twitch+naught jungle, both with smite, and you put morgana bot lane

the only reason this is such an issue is because its 'meta'

heck support adc could go mid, its a safer lane, they get more access to contest baron/rift while maintaining access to dragon

the reason its so commen is the sheep control the game

send adc and support mid with a wave clear make bot or even a tank bot like cho that can still shove waves

the reason its an issue is 'meta'

Lugg5/2/2017, 4:32:15 PM2 votes

Having the towers bot lane being easier to kill is the stupidest thing in the game. Bot towers should actually be HARDER to kill since ADCs are the best tower takers in the game. This would take a lot of the focus off bot and put it back on mid and top.

Space Jhin5/2/2017, 2:13:57 PM1 votes

Yep, as adc otp gotta agree with this. Playing as underfed adc is one of the worst experiences that can be had in the game, and it happens too frequently. If for whatever reason you go like 0/3 and/or lose lane then brace for everything past T2 turret being off limits to you. Other roles at least have some utility to help out the team even if they are weak but adc does not - all they have is damage and if they lose the momentum at scaling you're pretty much a roaming dummy target that can only hope the game hits the 30/40 minute mark.

IdveYsUfSK5/2/2017, 3:27:54 PM1 votes

Bot lane is about baiting bad dives and hoping for counterganks from smart junglers. If you suck at being a metasheep you simply stop being one. You could replace adc for apc. For support replacement you could play tanky bruisers with tons of ccs that cant die so you cant even die playing poorly and getting dived. The reason you are getting dived is your lane is free food or all lanes are feeding and the game is probably over.

Praetor Notorias5/2/2017, 3:56:32 PM1 votes

Your team sucks at warding. I already can see your dark minimap and can tell your problems. The jungle on your team was seen topside and didn't make an appearance botside (probably cause of all the traffic making them skiddish) so the enemy team now with absolutely more information than you, uses that information to punish your every move taking advantage of position they should absolutely not be able to just safely sashay through. While they are there they take your jungle's camps and they are now up about a thousand gold on your team.

Good luck with your comeback, kid.

Dukues5/2/2017, 6:22:47 PM1 votes

New Rift Herald should take a good amount of focus off bot lane in the early game

Big Lincoln5/2/2017, 6:24:41 PM1 votes

remove ADC and replace with superior bruiser ubermensch and problem will be solved

CasterGilgamesh5/2/2017, 9:22:56 PM1 votes

the only reason bot lane is as it is to prevent lane swaps

ModKnightsKemplar5/3/2017, 4:05:27 AM1 votes

To me, it kinda sounds like your playstyle is encouraging people to camp you.

Are you playing super aggro and/or pushed up a lot? If you were playing like an average adc, I would think that the number of times that you got camped and the enemy bot lane got camped would even out eventually. Just a thought.

Velgam5/2/2017, 1:06:41 PM1 votes

As a supp main I agree with this, always a party of 4 since they can't beat us 2 v 2, the biggest issue is that which ever side gets a gank 1st, even if it failed, that's basically turret gone, seen it happen and done it myself, we kill their adc, the supp backs, turret gone and we take drag or vice versa.when bot fails thats 2 players now behind.

Scien5/2/2017, 1:43:16 PM1 votes

I only see this as an issue before the support can get a sightstone.

(As a support main myself), it is relatively easy to defend against 4-5 mans botside through proper warding and vision denial to prevent TP ganks. It's more on the support (imo) to keep watch and notice when lanes are missing to figure out when to push or back off.