Calling all Yasuo mains. Riddle me this...

Melledoneus··3 votes·1,019 views

How do you play against this guy in lane? Is there a point I can beat him with someone like Viktor? I need tips now, apparently everything I knew about playing against Yasuo for the past two years is useless now.

Don't get the wrong idea. I just want to know what's his weakness. Because champion counter tips doesn't help much with that.

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MLDzXnRRR4 votes

Few people can beat Yasuo pre lvl 3 without dying to minion aggro. After lvl 3 most champions can trade or outtrade him.

DunkinNoobs4 votes

Let me see if I can find the essay I wrote on this. Brb.

Edit: ah, here it is:

There are a few tips that people already know about facing a Yasuo; poke his shield off with autos, he's weakest right after his tornado is gone, and he's weak to ganks. I'd like to go into more detail.

The key to beating a Yasuo in lane is proper minion management, and proper management is different depending on whether you're a ranged or melee champion. As a ranged champion, you want to keep the wave in 1 of 2 places depending on Yasuo's health relative to yours. If Yasuo is ahead or even, you want to keep the wave frozen a bit outside of your own tower, so that he has to go into tower range to order to dash onto you. You can basically do whatever you want to him if the wave is in this spot because you can simply retreat into tower range if he tries to go onto you. However, if you're ahead of him in health, you want to start a slow push, so you can poke him whenever he tries to CS and you'll have a buffer of minion support if he tries to all in you. In this case, he can't do much either.

For a melee champion, you want to slow push pretty much all the time. Yasuo is extremely vulnerable to being all inned by melee champions when he's trying to CS, and a good Yasuo will try to do a slow push of his own to discourage his opponent from attacking him. One important thing to understand is that while enemy minions are oftentimes Yasuo's best friends since he uses them to dash, they are also one of his biggest weaknesses since he's required to tank them in order to trade. If you can bait him into tanking alot of minions with some kind of defensive ability like an ori shield, you can very easily come out ahead in trades, provided you don't panic, keep autoing, and hit some extra free damage on him when he tries to get out.

Generally speaking, a Yasuo will always want the wave in 1 of 2 places. He either wants a slight minion advantage on his side so he can get free opportunities to poke with Q, but not so many more minions that the wave gets frozen outside the enemy tower. A good Yasuo will bait you into hitting minions with AOE abilities to push the wave back towards him if it starts to get too close to tower, allowing him to be aggressive again. The other position is for when Yasuo has a lead on his opponent; he will want to freeze outside of his tower, leaving a long trail of minions to dash through so he can all in you if you try to walk up to CS. The key to beating Yasuo is to keep the wave where you want it to be rather than the way he wants it to be, or there's not a whole lot you can do as alot of champions.

Other general tips for beating Yasuo include: Ask for ganks, an aggressive Yasuo player is very easy to bait and kill if he isn't strong enough to 1v2 already. Take exhaust as a combat summoner if your kill pressure on him is low, its a great way to neutralize his aggression in lane as well as neuter him in teamfights. If Yasuo misses his tornado, that is the time to be aggressive. His Q is on CD, he has no CC for a while, and his ult, by extension, is unavailable. And if Yasuo gets too aggressive in lane and messes up when trying to trade, all in him right then and there. If you get a lead against Yasuo, most champions will be able to zone him out heavily since he's a squishy melee only champion with no escape and no natural sustain.

And 1 final tip that almost no one knows about. Yasuo's ult is a suspension and not a knockup, which means it can be removed with QSS, Mikaels, Cleanse, Gangplanks orange, and Olaf's and Alistars ult. If you remove it, you can move immediately and will take no damage, but Yasuo will still be stuck in his ult animation until it is finished.

Dabrick011 votes

I will use this for the rest of my life.

Just reply this entire message to every Yasuo hate thread.

Thank you.

Melledoneus1 votes

Damn, this is exactly what I was looking for! I'm gonna try this out, thanks!

DeathBurst1 votes

Thanks a lot, that really helps! One question though...

And if Yasuo gets too aggressive in lane and messes up when trying to trade, all in him right then and there.

A lot of mid champs have almost 0 capacity to go for extended trades once they have used their combo. So, what does that mean for this category of champs to "all-in him if he messes up"? Typically, they'll take more damage than they can deal, if they fight with their spells on CD.

DunkinNoobs1 votes

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Thanks a lot, that really helps! One question though...

A lot of mid champs have almost 0 capacity to go for extended trades once they have used their combo. So, what does that mean for this category of champs to "all-in him if he messes up"? Typically, they'll take more damage than they can deal, if they fight with their spells on CD.

Most Yasuos will try to disengage when they mess up, and most champs can punish him hard at that point, whether it's a Viktor Orianna etc. chunking him super hard on the way out or a Leblanc Fizz Velkoz etc. outright killing him. Remember, if you can chunk Yasuo hard enough that he can no longer trade, you've taken control of the lane and do whatever you want until he heals. And if you kill him, you can easily build up enough of a stats advantage that he can't afford to go in on you anymore.

Bultz3 votes

With 750k exp in Yasuo, I can telll you, if you can't beat Yasuo as Viktor, thats on you, Literally poke his shield, stun, kit, gg. With no tenacity in this game and them having nerfed Yasuo so he can't build deff early, he gets rekted.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Can't do. Using a basic attack to poke down his shield is too hard on the feeble minds of people playing this game.

Melledoneus1 votes

Early on in the game I'm going to be farming because I'm not strong enough to out-trade him when he jumps next to me. I do auto attack his shield, but that gives him ample time to dash up to me, harass me, and dash back into his own wave. Once I get my augment it's possible to kill him, but even then Yasuo can dive me after poking me down hard with his E's and Q.

Bultz1 votes

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Early on in the game I'm going to be farming because I'm not strong enough to out-trade him when he jumps next to me. I do auto attack his shield, but that gives him ample time to dash up to me, harass me, and dash back into his own wave. Once I get my augment it's possible to kill him, but even then Yasuo can dive me after poking me down hard with his E's and Q.

See that's all wrong. Yes you will farm, but it's Yasuo so he will out farm you. You poke his shield, stay out of range, and stun. It's not about killing him, just lowering his hp is the point. With low hp he wont harass or be brave enough to attack. If you don't stun him, just wait till you do. He knows low hp means one stun and he is done.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Well one thing I do as Viktor is to suprise the Yasuo by being aggressive. lvl 1 Q damage is nothing to sneeze at when you have full AP quints and some AP blues. AA to break the shield then Q and then immediately AA him to chunk him.

53436278DEL12 votes

i dont play yasuo...but i only had success after i poked his wind health down....as well as avoiding his knock up at the same time

Oleandervine1 votes

Viktor should have surprisingly few issues considering his stasis field ignores the wall and his death ray can be cast parallel behind the Windwall to hit Yasuo, and his Chaos Storm is also not impeded by the wall. All you have to do is predict and pressure Yasuo with your stasis to get him to do what you want him to do.

Melledoneus1 votes

Well, I'm talking about farming early on. I can't W every time a cannon minion comes by.

Kãtãrinã1 votes

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Well, I'm talking about farming early on. I can't W every time a cannon minion comes by.

force him to use a windwall early in a trade. lol if you force him to windwall its a long cooldown and he wont be able to stop you from autoing the cannon.

DeathBurst1 votes

I'm not competent to help you about Yasuo, but just a tiny side note:

1 canon minion is just worth 2 normal minions. Don't over-commit for 2-minions worth of gold, and don't be too annoyed if you miss a canon, they are not so important. And even more importantly, your opponent EXPECTS you to over-commit, so he'll make sure to punish you hard for that. Whereas if you "over-commit" for 3 casters, that's basically as much gold, but at least your opponent will not expect it.

PoltergeistZ1 votes

Easy, Cho'Gath.Chogath >Yasuo or Malzahar and Swain

Meep Man1 votes

Anyone find it funny this thread is alive while there is another thread talking about how a Viktor beat a Yasuo in lane?

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