While I like 1337 refference, Brutalizer seems flawed and over loaded limiting AD item build paths

Irelia Bot··10 votes·1,046 views

Reasoning behind this issue? Let us say that there was an AD item costing around 800 to 900 gold that gave unique passive: 10% CDR and 15 AD building from only a item 1036. There would be a fair number of build concepts opened up with something like that.

Compare the 8 items that long sword builds into with the 12 that Amp tome builds into or the 17 that ruby crystal builds into. And jsut for reference 8 for pick axe, 6 for blasting wand, 5 for giant's belt 4 for BF sword 6 for NLR

AD items with secondary stats seems to be lacking when compared to AP and health.

As it stands the only item you can build from a single item 1036 that you are likely to ever get is a item 1053 since no one gets item 3141

So while I like the LEET reference of 1337 on Brutalizer it might be for the best if Brutalizer was divided into 2 different items One with CDR and the other with armor pen.

Just an observation. I don't expect anything done about this since a lot of people love Brutalizer but it is limiting the creation of other items from happening given that it is both the AD armor pen and CDR item.

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Lauki1 votes

only people building brutalizer are getting ghost blade, which definitely isnt an item for everyone, troll post? (and the junglers get it ofc)

Irelia Bot1 votes

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only people building brutalizer are getting ghost blade, which definitely isnt an item for everyone, troll post? (and the junglers get it ofc)

Actaully many champs will build a Brutalizer and hold on to it for a while since ghostblade does not offer much more in the way of base stats.

They get use out of the armor pen, CDR and AD though making it a good all around good buy but then they often get things like tiamat, BotRK and LW for more damage.

Basically Brutalizer is a damage enhancer that just happens to also have another stat that many of these champs want in CDR. It is an item that is easy to sit on for 20 minutes with no real down side in doing so.

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

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Actaully many champs will build a Brutalizer and hold on to it for a while since ghostblade does not offer much more in the way of base stats.

They get use out of the armor pen, CDR and AD though making it a good all around good buy but then they often get things like tiamat, BotRK and LW for more damage.

Basically Brutalizer is a damage enhancer that just happens to also have another stat that many of these champs want in CDR. It is an item that is easy to sit on for 20 minutes with no real down side in doing so.

item 3136 is the same thing with item 3151 . It has the same behavior. People don't rush liandrys.

Irelia Bot1 votes

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item 3136 is the same thing with item 3151 . It has the same behavior. People don't rush liandrys.

Well item 3151 just got a fairly big buff so it is getting rushed by some champs now.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Rumble rushes item 3151

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

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Rumble rushes item 3151

It is the exception that validates the rule. See: Nashors.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

(I play Gnar top lane) Personally, I start with Brutalizer for harass in lane, and then build MR or Armor boots, then Sunfire Cape, then other tanky stuffs. I then either sell Brutalizer or build ghost blade for the lols.

LilxPaprika1 votes

Agreed with title had same thought last night would be sad to part with an item with that price point Maybe we can call it Elitetalizer for tribute

Squirtle1231 votes

The Brutalizer is for op but hard to play champs like Riven. Mostly Riven players that are starter buy it.

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