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Why I absolutely hate this community: New MELEE CARY playstyles become viable? hurr durr ban + QQ.

Indominus Blade·Sep 4, 2015·9 votes·1,973 views

Hi,

I am a big fan of melee carries, ever since their release, I have played and non-stop as my main champions. I didn't care if they were strong or weak, I kept playing them through all the nerfs and buffs, because the playstyle is extremely fun and mechanics and skill have a big impact. I tried picking up and , but I didn't have the required kind of skill and mechanics needed (especially for riven auto attack animation cancling) to be good at these champions.

Now, with the juggernaut patch, a lot of melee playstyles became available! Everytime I play ADC in botlane, my team flames me and trolls. Now, finally I could play a dedicated melee carry in the botlane, enter: ! oh wait... perma banned in ranked. Never mind, I'll try some mid, really love the weak spots mini game of her kit! oh wait... perma banned in ranked. It is ok, I will take on of my oldest favourite champions to the top lane, long time no see Hand of Noxus ! Oh wait, perma banned in ranked.

STOP. STOP ThiS RIGht NOW!

No, are not OP. They all have tons of counterplay. You can avoid Darius' Decimate power by either walking out of its range or walking in to Darius. Mordekaiser has no escape, why don't you pick bot lane and crush him? Fiora can't outduel you if you cover your weak spots and use movement commands wisely.

I hate this stupid childish community, every time some champions become viable, they start crying for nerfs and perma banning them in ranked, instead of adapting!

Riot, please rework all the boring melee carries like to have fun and dynamic playstyles. These champions are viable, but boring to play, point and click stun, point and click dash zzzzzzzz. is legit one of the most fun if not the most fun melee champion I have ever played, thanks to her orbitting around enemy targets to get the weak spots.

Please, riot keep revamping melee carries and adding more "Juggernauts" to the game, so this idiotic community can't keep banning champions and has to adapt and l2p once for a change.

60 Comments

powerbatsSep 4, 20155 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-04T13:35:50.510+0000)

Hi,

I am a big fan of melee carries, ever since their release, I have played and non-stop as my main champions. I didn't care if they were strong or weak, I kept playing them through all the nerfs and buffs, because the playstyle is extremely fun and mechanics and skill have a big impact. I tried picking up and , but I didn't have the required kind of skill and mechanics needed (especially for riven auto attack animation cancling) to be good at these champions.

Now, with the juggernaut patch, a lot of melee playstyles became available! Everytime I play ADC in botlane, my team flames me and trolls. Now, finally I could play a dedicated melee carry in the botlane, enter: ! oh wait... perma banned in ranked. Never mind, I'll try some mid, really love the veak spots mini game of her kit! oh wait... perma banned in ranked. It is ok, I will take on of my oldest favourite champions to the top lane, long time no see Hand of Noxus ! Oh wait, perma banned in ranked.

STOP. STOP ThiS RIGht NOW!

No, are not OP. They all have tons of counterplay. You can avoid Darius' Decimate power by either walking out of its range or walking in to Darius. Mordekaiser has no escape, why don't you pick bot lane and crush him? Fiora can't outduel you if you cover your weak spots and use movement commands wisely.

I hate this stupid childish community, every time some champions become viable, they start crying for nerfs and perma banning them in ranked, instead of adapting!

Riot, please rework all the boring melee carries like to have fun and dynamic playstyles. These champions are viable, but boring to play, point and click stun, point and click dash zzzzzzzz. is legit one of the most fun if not the most fun melee champion I have ever played, thanks to her orbitting around enemy targets to get the weak spots.

Please, riot keep revamping melee carries and adding more &qu

So the community is idiotic for banning champs that are currently winning and needs to l2p but you who only wants to play said champs isn't and doesn't need to l2p? Sounds like you need to l2p since if you can only play a few champs then that's your fault since if the pro's ban champs in LCS that are currently winning it's because perhaps they want to prevent the other team from using said champs to win. Now notice how those pro teams then pick other champs and play those because they don't rely on only a few current flavor of the month champs that might get banned.

You might want to consider your words more carefully next time before posting something that makes you look petulant because you can only play a few champs that're currently strong which btw Riot is probably going to nerf since they're currently a little too strong in Riot's eyes.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20153 votes

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So the community is idiotic for banning champs that are currently winning and needs to l2p but you who only wants to play said champs isn't and doesn't need to l2p? Sounds like you need to l2p since if you can only play a few champs then that's your fault since if the pro's ban champs in LCS that are currently winning it's because perhaps they want to prevent the other team from using said champs to win. Now notice how those pro teams then pick other champs and play those because they don't rely on only a few current flavor of the month champs that might get banned.

You might want to consider your words more carefully next time before posting something that makes you look petulant because you can only play a few champs that're currently strong which btw Riot is probably going to nerf since they're currently a little too strong in Riot's eyes.

I have no trouble winning, I have trouble playing Darius Mordekaiser Fiora in ranked because noob community who refuses to adapt prefers to ban these new viable and fun to play champions.

powerbatsSep 4, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T13:49:31.745+0000)

I have no trouble winning, I have trouble playing in ranked because noob community who refuses to adapt prefers to ban these new viable and fun to play champions.

So again you have trouble playing because you can only play as those champs and because you REFUSE TO ADAPT and learn to play other fun champs. Like I said the pro's have no problem picking other champs when the ones they like to play most get banned, if you can't adapt it's your own fault not the communities.

From a Master tier player's post about Darius.

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I want Darius to be strong but I'd rather have him weak than permabanned in ranked.

Can I rioter appease us REAL Darius player who only want to play him in ranked again!

Your response that shows you're either a troll or just a qqer because the person doesn't agree with you.

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OsikT3n3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-09-04T04:25:08.740+0000)

You are not a real Darius player, you are just another real QQ'r.

From a Diamond IV

[{quoted}](name=Slamurai Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OsikT3n3,comment-id=000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T06:11:02.416+0000)

I don't see any gutting happening yet. Darius is going to get nerfed no question and he'll deserve it. He's kinda absurd right now, as is Mordekaiser. Garen's already been toned down and I'd be surprised if Riot nerfed him again. And who knows just how strong Skarner is after all those hotfix nerfs; we'll have to get some numbers before making a judgement on that.

Your response.

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OsikT3n3,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T07:24:17.689+0000)

Darius is fine, he is banned often because of the double Q bug and clueless noobs thinking he is OP.

Riot's response.

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He's probably too strong. Statikk has some slight changes in store that should appear on PBE tomorrow, I believe.

Now as far as adapting goes you've only played as far back as January goes based upon your match history are Yasuo, Zed, Talon with some Darius. This includes times when Darius wasn't very strong and wasn't banned often but your match history shows you playing only champs that were considered too strong by pretty much everyone except those getting free elo with them.

In fact in S% you've only played Zed Yasuo and Talon with win rates of 78.6% on Zed, 70.3% on Yasuo, and 62.5% on Talon. So for someone who says they have no problem adapting it sure seems like you do in fact have an issue adapting and only want to play champs that're currently fotm fre elo.

Again if it's obviously the idiotic community that can't adapt why is it the pro's that ban some of these same champs and pick different champs can adapt or the rest of the community that does the same with no problem. Only playing 3-4 champs and no other means you refuse to adapt and really limit both yours and your teams choices and chances in games. You've obviously got skill but you seem to not want to have to use it beyond your comfort zone.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

I've played Zed and Yasuo since their release as my main champions. This is a smurf account dedicated to Zed Yasuo Talon only (which explains the name and 3 Blade using champions).

I have other diamond accounts. I play other champions on them, such as Vladimir Rammus Nautilus Nocturne etc. I told you, I don't have a problem winning. I want to play Darius Fiora Mordekaiser in ranked, but I can't since they get spam banned.

Whatever Darius nerfs riot has planned, I can assure you they will be very small, like the Fiora nerfs, because non of these champions are OP.

powerbatsSep 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T15:16:17.731+0000)

I've played and since their release as my main champions. This is a smurf account dedicated to only (which explains the name and 3 Blade using champions).

I have other diamond accounts. I play other champions on them, such as etc. I told you, I don't have a problem winning. I want to play in ranked, but I can't since they get spam banned.

Whatever nerfs riot has planned, I can assure you they will be very small, like the nerfs, because non of these champions are OP.

You shoudl've stated this was a smurf account from the start stating you only play these certain champions on it since that would make your arguments more clear and easier to backup so to speak. You should also have posted on one of your other full accounts as more backup since that's also proof that you only play x certain champs and are adaptable.

I agree that Darius only needs some slight tweaks to get him right and I used to love playing him before until they gutted him. Mordekaiser needs some tuning as well so he's not so strong in dual lane without hurting his solo play. Some of this has to do with item changes and some champion kits.

3TWarriorSep 4, 20151 votes

I want to post something constructive, but as a personal opinion, mordekaiser's early game bullying power and some late game tankiness were all that was changed about him and he does well with another tanky laner as his support. Bear in mind I haven't gotten to play him much because I have terrible internet, but when played, he still felt like the old mordekaiser, only now he is the immortal piece of metal he was always claimed to be...and keeping a slight amount of his heritage, he can now summon a dragon's soul to fight for him should his team beat the dragon or should he happen to be jungler or etc

Ser GarlandSep 4, 20151 votes

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So the community is idiotic for banning champs that are currently winning and needs to l2p but you who only wants to play said champs isn't and doesn't need to l2p? Sounds like you need to l2p since if you can only play a few champs then that's your fault since if the pro's ban champs in LCS that are currently winning it's because perhaps they want to prevent the other team from using said champs to win. Now notice how those pro teams then pick other champs and play those because they don't rely on only a few current flavor of the month champs that might get banned.

You might want to consider your words more carefully next time before posting something that makes you look petulant because you can only play a few champs that're currently strong which btw Riot is probably going to nerf since they're currently a little too strong in Riot's eyes.

is the LCS banning Fiora and Garen? THAT is funny.

powerbatsSep 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ser Garland,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2015-09-04T14:39:52.185+0000)

is the LCS banning Fiora and Garen? THAT is funny.

Did I ever say Fiora and Garen, my comment was referring to Darius and other champs that were at the time considered strong during said LCS games. Remember all those games where Morde/Lucian/Hecarim/etc were banned because they were really strong? Trying to twist what I say to make your point simply makes you look foolish.

Doggie KrugerSep 4, 20153 votes

I agree with you on the whole Fiora not being OP thing. You need to know your shit , otherwise she'll crush you. if you're bad , you die to her if they know what they're doing.

But i do think that Darius and Morde are OP. Just about all juggernauts are Broken atm. I agree on trynd and jax needing reworks. They are very boring and you just click until they die. Irelia needs more nerfs tbh. I feel as if she is a Unsung hero.

All in all , Balance is not in a good spot right now.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

Irelia is also right click and wait till something dies, which is very boring and her point and click 2 sec stun is toxic. I would love Irelia, Jax and Tryndamere rework so that they get dynamic and engaging playstyle. But hey, atleast 3 melee champions are getting full kit + visual rework/update pretty soon: Poppy Warwick Yorick .

I don't think Juggernauts are as strong as people claim, but we will see if they are picked for worlds or not.

Smegma123Sep 4, 20153 votes

Ahaha freELOader mad cuz he can't get his freelo champs.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

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Ahaha freELOader mad cuz he can't get his freelo champs.

I win a lot vs enemy Darius Fiora Mordekaiser , so how are they freelo? I just want to play them in ranked because they are fresh and new and interesting ways to play melee champions, yet I can't, because they get spam banned.

Smegma123Sep 4, 20152 votes

Yeah they get spam banned cause they are freelo. I dodge queues if I don't see a darius/garen ban. I don't even care whether enemy picks or not, I straight up dodge. Even pro players are worried about Darius and Morde being overpowered for Worlds. "Fresh, new and interesting" is for normals. In ranked, you play to win. If you want to win, you pick/ban Garen Darius Morde Fiora Skarner. No questions asked. No ifs or buts. They are ridiculously brokenly overpowered and there is nothing anybody can do or say to refute this. Just because you can't play a fun champ means nothing, rest of us are here trying to ensure our LP doesn't drop while you play your fun free-win champ.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

This mentality is why you are silver 3, those champions are not OP, you are bad and don't know how to play vs them, instead of learning you blame something like OP champ or elo hell etc. rofl, keep dodging games, will help you get out of silver.

Smegma123Sep 4, 20152 votes

Your argument would be so solid, complete with that underhanded insult to my ELO, except for the fact that even in Challenger and pro play some of these champs are considered overpowered. Everything has counterplay, doesn't mean they aren't OP. Sorry your freelo train champs are getting perma-banned, I know it sucks that you can't cash into your daily free wins. Must be a terrible feeling.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

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Your argument would be so solid, complete with that underhanded insult to my ELO, except for the fact that even in Challenger and pro play some of these champs are considered overpowered. Everything has counterplay, doesn't mean they aren't OP. Sorry your freelo train champs are getting perma-banned, I know it sucks that you can't cash into your daily free wins. Must be a terrible feeling.

How are they freelo when they have 50-53% win rate? Freelo would be 90%+ win rate. How can it even be freelo if they are spam banned in ranked? You make no sense.

Smegma123Sep 4, 20152 votes

Let's change it to Easy-Elo then. After hotfix nerfs Garen and Skarner win rates may have dropped. However Darius and Morde are still overpowered. Riot is releasing fixes to Darius tomorrow on PBE this is fact and your "easy-elo" champ is about to get nerfed to its rightful place too bad.

Pro players have expressed concerns about these two champs. To quote ZionSpartan "Will I have to ban Darius and Morde every game in Worlds if I am purple side?" Please if you are a better player than NA best toplaner this year, tell me why he (as well as many other pros) is wrong.

Riot has said it, pros have said it, practically the whole community knows it. Sorry brother your "easy-elo" pubstomp champs are about to get nerfed.

And now that these guys are OP, all players are trying to use them. that means they have 50-53% winrate with TOTAL NOOBS playing these champs. Imagine if only players who have mained these champs used them. Winrate would skyrocket.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20151 votes

The nerfs are going to be small, you will see. I would love to see Darius and Mordekaiser be dominant at worlds, why not?

Also, finally today I get to play Fiora in ranked! After so many bans, time to enjoy, cya.

SEKAISep 4, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-04T13:35:50.510+0000)

Hi,

I am a big fan of melee carries, ever since their release, I have played and non-stop as my main champions.

.......

Zed.

Melee Carries.

.......

Just sayin'

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

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.......

Zed.

Melee Carries.

.......

Just sayin'

You are right mr silver troll, Zed is a ranged champion, kappa.

SEKAISep 4, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-09-04T13:51:24.393+0000)

You are right mr silver troll, Zed is a ranged champion, kappa.

Facepalm. Yeah because all melee toon is a carry.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

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Facepalm. Yeah because all melee toon is a carry.

Every champion can carry when you play them good.

SEKAISep 4, 20153 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T13:56:35.034+0000)

Every champion can carry when you play them good.

By your logic everyone in this game is a carry. The Carry tag in this game, or almost any game ever, is a classification given to champs/toons who are not great early but scale extremely well into late game which is definitely NOT what Zed is.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

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By your logic everyone in this game is a carry. The Carry tag in this game, or almost any game ever, is a classification given to champs/toons who are not great early but scales extremely well into late game which is definitely NOT what Zed is.

News flash mr silver troll, there is no carry tag in League of Legends, this isn't dota2. In league of legends you have Assassins, Tanks, Fighters ("Juggernauts", a sub-group of fighters), Support, Mage and Marskman. Every one of these roles is a carry, every one of these roles can carry games. I've seen a Bard carry games at diamond+ elo. Now go away and stop replying to me, your understanding of the game reflects your silver elo, every time you reply to me, you say something which makes no sense to anyone who has a proper understanding of this game.

SEKAISep 4, 20153 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T14:02:42.989+0000)

you say something which makes no sense to anyone who has a proper understanding of this game.

Funny it's precisely because I have been playing this game for quite a while I know how exactly you're wrong stating Zed is a carry because everyone can carry to certain extent. Are all people eating contest champions because everyone knows how to chew? Do you see how flawed your logic is?

I don't need someone to educate me with a dumbed down children's fairytale book when every kid was reading idk, Life of Pi last generation. Same thing here.

The class system changed twice (from my memory) from their original expansive class system into today's inferior version. But thankfully, reworks haven't caught up yet hence the previous versions still for the most part (outside of the somewhat niche ones like say Pusher), apply.

LoL still to this day, has a class system consists of (assuming I don't miss anything):

Ranged:

Support
Mage
Mage assassin
Ranged ADC

Melee:

Melee ADC
Assassins
Fighter
Bruiser
Tank

Also yes, because clearly names matter the most and not how they actually function.

There is no need to defend your nonexistent argument, we should just call it a day.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

No such a thing as ADC in this game, you are stuck in season 1, this is season 5. Use the correct class types. Nobody cares that you have played since beta, you are silver and you use classifications that are no longer valid.

SEKAISep 4, 20153 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T14:16:34.087+0000)

No such a thing as ADC in this game, you are stuck in season 1, this is season 5. Use the correct class types. Nobody cares that you have played since beta, you are silver and you use classifications that are no longer valid.

You missed the most important line out of all that.

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Also yes, because clearly names matter the most and not how they actually function.

The game to this day, is still balanced around the older classification for the most part, hence it's not invalid. Only the names were changed, and some got merged even though they are still balanced according to their original classification.

And the one I mentioned above is actually the classification used from S2 to 4 (and is still influencing S5), as the S1's was larger than that.

KaminoXSep 4, 20151 votes

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You missed the most important line out of all that.

The game to this day, is still balanced around the older classification for the most part, hence it's not invalid. Only the names were changed, and some got merged even though they are still balanced according to their original classification.

And the one I mentioned above is actually the classification used from S2 to 4 (and is still influencing S5), as the S1's was larger than that.

I think he needs some cold water for that burn XD

ZephyrDrakeSep 4, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T14:16:34.087+0000)

No such a thing as ADC in this game, you are stuck in season 1, this is season 5. Use the correct class types. Nobody cares that you have played since beta, you are silver and you use classifications that are no longer valid.

no such thing as ADC? everyone still uses ADC and very few people ever bother mentioning "marksman". Sorry but you are WRONG and the fact that you only have "you are X rank" as your only excuse proves it. All those classifications are more than valid

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20151 votes

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no such thing as ADC? everyone still uses ADC and very few people ever bother mentioning "marksman". Sorry but you are WRONG and the fact that you only have "you are X rank" as your only excuse proves it. All those classifications are more than valid

NO THEY ARE NOT VALID, THE GAME CLIENT CLEARLY STATES MARSKMAN, NOT ASSASSIN, YOU CLUELESS TROLL.

THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS ADC, STOP LIVING IN THE PAST.

ZephyrDrakeSep 4, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2015-09-04T14:23:57.117+0000)

NO THEY ARE NOT VALID, THE GAME CLIENT CLEARLY STATES MARSKMAN, NOT ASSASSIN, YOU CLUELESS TROLL.

THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS ADC, STOP LIVING IN THE PAST.

why should i care what the game says? using the logic of what the game says then half the champions wouldn't even be what the game says they are. Also since when does ADC means Assassin now? And i am the clueless troll here? you are not even trying anymore. ADCs exist it's you who needs to actually use that thing in between your head since you clearly have no idea how to use it

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

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why should i care what the game says? using the logic of what the game says then half the champions wouldn't even be what the game says they are. Also since when does ADC means Assassin now? And i am the clueless troll here? you are not even trying anymore. ADCs exist it's you who needs to actually use that thing in between your head since you clearly have no idea how to use it

THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS ADC, USE THE CORRECT CLASSIFICATION: MARKSMAN.

SILVER TROLL.

ZephyrDrakeSep 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T14:57:18.555+0000)

THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS ADC, USE THE CORRECT CLASSIFICATION: MARKSMAN.

SILVER TROLL.

silver troll... is that your great comeback? at the bare minimum call me by my actual rank which is gold. If you are going to bother using ranks as a form of insult then at least try to get that much right and ADCs are the exact same thing as a marksman different name same exact shit. So guess what? ADCs EXIST!

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20151 votes

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silver troll... is that your great comeback? at the bare minimum call me by my actual rank which is gold. If you are going to bother using ranks as a form of insult then at least try to get that much right and ADCs are the exact same thing as a marksman different name same exact shit. So guess what? ADCs EXIST!

THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS ADC. SHOW ME WHERE IN THE GAME CLIENT IT SAYS ADC. IT IS CALLED MARKSMAN, SAY IT: MARKSMAN.

ZephyrDrakeSep 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T15:24:12.873+0000)

THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS ADC. SHOW ME WHERE IN THE GAME CLIENT IT SAYS ADC. IT IS CALLED MARKSMAN, SAY IT: MARKSMAN.

ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC does it bother the baby that i am not saying it right? ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC

SEKAISep 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus Blade,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TEasQsE,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-04T15:24:12.873+0000)

THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS ADC. SHOW ME WHERE IN THE GAME CLIENT IT SAYS ADC. IT IS CALLED MARKSMAN, SAY IT: MARKSMAN.

@Indominus Blade

It's just a frigging name.

ADC - Attack Damage Carry is what we used to call the well, attack damage carries, before Riot invented the stupid name called Marksman in the attempt to shift melee ADCs into either Assassins or Fighters which let's just say it doesn't work out as good as they so think.

Riot's current classification makes no sense to how the champs are actually functioning, nor are they actually balancing the game according to the present classification atm.

That's why no one who has played this game for more than 1.5 years even bothers to acknowledge the new system we have.

EDIT: Ah I guess the reply broke. Wasn't meant to reply to you ZephyrDrake sorry.

Sightless66Sep 4, 20151 votes

No. No one cares what the client says. I literally don't give a shit. Completely irrelevant. ADC works as a label because everyone knows what it means. It effectively communicates the meaning of the word. So long as that's true, it's valid. The client can call it whatever it wants, and it means nothing to me.

You're just going to have to deal with this. Or don't deal with it. Either way, it won't change anything. People still use the term ADC, and they will continue doing so. You can say people are wrong for doing so, but that's just your opinion and no one is going to care. You can choose to accept that or not, but that's still the way it's going to be.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20151 votes

NOPE YOU DUMB TROLL, IT IS A FACT. IT IS CALLED MARKSMAN, THAT IS THE CORRECT CLASSIFICATION, THIS IS A FACT, YOU AND YOUR DELUSIONAL SEASON 1 SILVER BUDDIES CAN CALL IT ADC, DOESN'T MATTER, YOU ARE STILL WRONG AND ARE USING AN INCORRECT TERM.

STAY LOW ELO, STAY REKT.

ZephyrDrakeSep 4, 20152 votes

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NOPE YOU DUMB TROLL, IT IS A FACT. IT IS CALLED MARKSMAN, THAT IS THE CORRECT CLASSIFICATION, THIS IS A FACT, YOU AND YOUR DELUSIONAL SEASON 1 SILVER BUDDIES CAN CALL IT ADC, DOESN'T MATTER, YOU ARE STILL WRONG AND ARE USING AN INCORRECT TERM.

STAY LOW ELO, STAY REKT.

ok i will stay low elo and will stay wreck because ADC is the right way to say it! since "marksman" is the pussy way of saying it!

ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC ADC

steelblackskySep 4, 20151 votes

"News flash mr silver troll, there is no carry tag in League of Legends"

actually learn some league history. what was the tag for marksman before it was renamed to marksman?

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/ADC

what is the C in adc. yeah. fun times, simple facts.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20151 votes

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"News flash mr silver troll, there is no carry tag in League of Legends"

actually learn some league history. what was the tag for marksman before it was renamed to marksman?

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/ADC

what is the C in adc. yeah. fun times, simple facts.

Nobody cares what the game used in season 1, this isn't season 1, this is season 5. There is no such a thing as ADC now, get lost troll.

powerbatsSep 4, 20151 votes

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Nobody cares what the game used in season 1, this isn't season 1, this is season 5. There is no such a thing as ADC now, get lost troll.

While Riot may call them Marksman most people still refer to it as ADC heck go watch some pro streams they also refer to ADC's simply because it's too ingrained right now. The same is true of other roles as well regardless of what their in game designation is.

SerevasSep 4, 20152 votes

As it turns out Ashe is one of the biggest counters to Mordekaiser bot lane, she kites for days, and your biggest problem with Mordekaiser has always been getting kited. People would rather just instalock Vayne without thinking though.

Yesterday I tilted a top lane Irelia so hard it was absurd. Her entire defense was that Darius is just OP. Sure I don't disagree that he's a little overly strong, but when you decide to come back and try to duel him level 3, when you already have 3/5 bleed stacks on you, you deserve to die. She frequently returned to my Q range, because apparently she thought there was no cast time like before still, then threw a fit when it would hit her. All she needed to do was look at his abilities on the wiki to see what he does and she would have had a much better time in the lane. Instead all she does is whine about her jungler not ganking, and Darius being super OP. Her jungler did attempt to gank, with their support I might add, I killed all three of them because she had fed me beyond repair at that point, so like a smart jungler, he abandoned her and tried to help other lanes, which worked, until I decided that 70 gold for a kill just wasn't worth the effort and went elsewhere to snowball those lanes.

Note: I up voted your post as someone had down voted it, the only reason I gave you the up vote is because people do in fact need to learn to adjust, or at least how to not die to their lane opponent.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20152 votes

Yes, I have a lot of fun playing against a Darius, because I understand his kit and his kit allows for interaction. I can step out of Q range, step in his melee to avoid getting hit by the blade part of his Q, which makes him not get a bleed stack and heal. You can all in him and burst him before he gets 5 bleed stacks up.

I have a lot of fun playing vs and as Darius, it is a shame I rarely get to play him in ranked, gets banned all the time.

SerevasSep 4, 20153 votes

I love playing Darius, he's just a lot of fun, and I've always enjoyed the champion since I first picked him up before I even knew how to play the game.

I'm just thrilled he's relevant in the game now.

WarlockLawSep 4, 20151 votes

It's funny how rarely ppl try to burst him before he gets 5 bleed stacks. Whenever I'm against champs that can do so I'm normally allowed to disengage, and then champs that can't burst him like to all in me and then I do get 5 bleed stacks and they try to run

Shroom JunkieSep 4, 20152 votes

A melee carry is fine. What we have a problem with is a melee carry with 3000 health and 75 armor and magic resist that still deals enough damage to take out a squishy in seconds.

Indominus BladeSep 4, 20151 votes

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Shroom JunkieSep 4, 20151 votes

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lol wut So I'm supposed to build all that shit simply to do a wee bit more damage to them so it takes me 10 seconds instead of 30 seconds, while they kill me in 3? oh ok.

Mr Sir LebowskiSep 4, 20151 votes

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A melee carry is fine. What we have a problem with is a melee carry with 3000 health and 75 armor and magic resist that still deals enough damage to take out a squishy in seconds.

It's not a problem for a few reasons

-The juggernauts may be able to carry and have decent tankiness but they have low mobility and don't put out as much damage as what you would define as a hyper melee carry. All of the juggernauts are slow and bumbling compared to some other champions that have invuln,stealth,untargetability,dashes. They need that tankiness.

-Squishy's die in seconds to anyone with at least 1 damage item already they rely on their tools and team to keep them alive so they can build 80-100% damage oriented

Juggernauts rely on hard CC to carry , your team can't use a kite/peel strategy like is normally used for ranged ADC.

-Juggernauts do not add any siege potential like some ranged ADC's, they require a team made for engaging. You need to play a comparable 'all in' team or a disengage team to go up against them. Split pushing is always still a strat as well.

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