Dumb thought: What if mages had less hard CC?

Ralanr··2 votes·276 views

So as some of you complain about, the game is currently overloaded with hard CC. We got hard CC from your mages, tanks, supports, fighters, hell even your ADCs get some hard CC. It seems to be Riot's goto utility when it comes to designing champions, and to be frank I don't blame them since slows feel ineffective against mobile champions and having no CC at all makes you basically trash unless your numbers are dumb high (hi MasterYi).

So why not start lessening the amount of hard CC in newer champions (specifically mages but there are others) and use other forms of utility/unique CC.

One example is grounded.

Incoming hate from every high mobile champion main

It's an example ok. You can argue that grounded pretty much makes your champion unplayable, but so does getting stunned and ulted by a Syndra most of the time. At least grounded people can run and cast abilities.

Speaking of abilities, another CC we could see are silences. Silences would need to be unreliable though since reliable ways to stop the enemy from casting abilities is why assassins don't get them anymore.

These new forms of CC should also be unreliable, allowing for better counterplay and more skill expression.

And why mages? Honestly I think that they tend to have too much of it sometimes with their kill potential. I'm not saying we remove Brand's stun combo, Lux's root R combo, or Syndra's big AoE stun that later nukes people when combined with her ult. I'm just saying I'd like to see future mages with less hard CC in their kits to give them more variety.

Just a dumb idea.

7 Comments

KuroCaliber1 votes

Remove their cc, give them mobility. Mages are basically immobile assassins, with cc.

Ralanr1 votes

But then they're just ranged assassins with mobility.

KuroCaliber1 votes

So basically Leblanc without chain?

Ralanr1 votes

Yeah.

Big Lincoln1 votes

why do you always put 'dumb' in your posts, just makes people more likely to think it's dumb

marksmen are the ones who need to be losing utility but mages could stand to get some conditionally taken off. riot needs to better emphasize the difference between nukers and utility mages, currently utility mages still nuke you but also have much better team benefits

Ralanr1 votes

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why do you always put 'dumb' in your posts, just makes people more likely to think it's dumb

To avoid responsibility.

If the idea isn't actually dumb, then I present myself as someone who likes to mock himself at times. If it is dumb, then I'm aware of it and it just becomes a "bad idea sharing" thread.

marksmen are the ones who need to be losing utility but mages could stand to get some conditionally taken off. riot needs to better emphasize the difference between nukers and utility mages, currently utility mages still nuke you but also have much better team benefits

Yeah, all mages feel way too bursty at times. Though if utility mages weren't bursty then they probably couldn't lane effectively (because no one wants to play a lane loser apparently). I think Riot should try and bring back mage junglers to help broaden where mages can go if they can't work mid.

Big Lincoln1 votes

majority of utility mages have low cooldowns anyway, i don't think they need to have the ability to murder people in one rotation

Orianna Lissandra when she was good

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