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Le blanc shouldnt lose her clone mechanics with a revert

Poske··2 votes·342 views

I mean you are reverting her back to 47% winrate state slapping 6-7 nerfs on top of it. Where is the compensation Riot?

You are essentially keeping her delay with a rework which is one of the highest complaints people have (I never shared that complaint)

Poske what do you mean how are they keeping a delay? Did you guys like not notice that E has backloaded damage. Did you guys not notice that Mimic Q has backloaded damage. Good luck with your WRQE /WQRE COMBOS they will not one shot unless you stay in chain range

I am not saying this delays are bad. But you are gonna leave every FKING LE BLANC PLAYER WHO WANTED A REVERT UNHAPPY

And those who dont want a revert like me and every single Le blanc high elo main I have spoken to, are already unhappy

Reverted Le blanc ll have less damage, less freedom and ll actually be more delayed

Once she ll be at 42% winrate globaly (my estimation) BRING HER CLONE BACK ON MIMIC CAST and drop her ulti cooldown while at it.

Here is the suggestion

New passive (replaces the old passive)

Every time Le blanc casts an ultimate she stealths for 0.1 seconds and spawns a clone (basicly just as live) She could keep her old reverted passive till she levels her ultimate

And viola everyone is satisfied. Expecting from Le blanc to stay in Chain range while the last ability she uses HAS TO BE A CHAIN due to less freedom, without the ministealth/juke we could force is ridicilus. I ll just die to AD Carry or whatever I am trying to kill in a meantime

As Far as her ultimate cooldown being high here are Le blanc nerfs which wont piss of Le blanc mains so that we can keep her ultimate cooldown at current live status

  • Sigil of malice cooldown changed to 10,9,8,7,6 from 6 seconds at all levels
  • Distortion speed reduced even further by 100 or 150
  • Chain root duration reduced to 1s from 1.5s (Do you guys know that le blanc can snare for 3 seconds just like morgana can while being super mobile)

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IP Masquerena1 votes

Don't bother. Riot themselves said it's too hard to press 2 buttons for help ult, so now, she's gonna be useless. I'm enjoying her while I can now, then I'll shelve her when she gets thrown back to the trash she was.

"You won lane against me? No worries, I'll hit level 6, then WQRQ and you're dead" "You didn't won lane againe me? Even better"

Right now, LeBlanc has a high skill cap, so she can fuck up combos, make mistakes, and even a LeBlanc who is ahead can be punished, but when she will get reverted, because all the crybabies "I can't instagib anymore, so she's clunky" were overwhelming the forums, those like the current one, will stop playing her. She was toxic and weak as help old her, and the only deceiving she has "is she gonna instagib me with QRQ me now, or in the next 5 seconds?"

But hey, telling people who could only play that to play something that requires skill is too much.

Poske1 votes

I respected the fact that people have trouble pressing 2 buttoms. Thats why I am not suggesting RR to get back. But she shouldnt lose her R clone

This is how all the bad Le blanc mains sound.

Hurr durr I am Le blanc MAININE I THINK FAKER IS GUT LE BLANC I RUSHDED GUNBLADE ME NO 1 SHOT THE DELLLAY TO STRONK SIV HD NO JUKEY HE QUITEY DUE TO REWORKEDED, ME FK UP THE CUCUMBERCOMBOO, ENEMYYY LIVE WE FORCED TOOO BUILD GUNLAADA TO BRUST MEMEME ME ME.

However you are incorrect on some points.

  • Le blanc always had high skill cap, doesnt matter the iteration (well maybe not S1 le blanc)
  • Spamming The old WQR combo was actually a sign of bad Le blanc player, and its getting weaker reggardless
  • Old Le blanc wasnt weak ....

Riot promised partial revert but she is actually getting full revert with nerfs. Partial revert would be fine, specificly mimicing the last ability is more healthy since current double press alternative fks up noobs who cant press buttoms and gives her 2 much freedom

But they have no excuse of bringing back her old ARCHAIC design passive and removing the one thing which allowed her to stay in range for the delay which was the mini juke with R

IP Masquerena1 votes

She got reworked soon after I started playing, so all the LeBlancs I faced only had QRQ or were garbage if that failed, and me playing her felt the same way, that's why I said she was weak.

I understand it does give her a bit too much freedom, but the current iteration of R is something she shouldn't lose. I had lanes where I barely won them because I was able to select another spell instead of the last casted one. If they want to remove the safety, they can just halve the range of RW and there, that fixes it.

But hey, that's my take on her, the Live R is what makes her fun to play for me, so if that gets removed, I'll shelve her, because I just can't stand her old R. I also can't understand people who say that it's too hard to press 2 buttons, but hey, not every champion is for them.

Poske1 votes

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She got reworked soon after I started playing, so all the LeBlancs I faced only had QRQ or were garbage if that failed, and me playing her felt the same way, that's why I said she was weak.

Understandable. Old Le blanc is full of combos tho not like New Le blanc isnt but she lost some old combo relevancy for new combos I kinda miss her old QW / QE but with a revert I ll miss some new combos (soon to be old) to ):

I understand it does give her a bit too much freedom, but the current iteration of R is something she shouldn't lose. I had lanes where I barely won them because I was able to select another spell instead of the last casted one. If they want to remove the safety, they can just halve the range of RW and there, that fixes it.

This is not the best solution. Halving the W range, fks up her EW / QW combo etc. It gives her to much freedom in term that she can always dash backwards with RW if something goes wrong. Which was my initial complaint with the rework.. I knew she would have to be nerfed a bunch due to this (it happend)

But hey, that's my take on her, the Live R is what makes her fun to play for me, so if that gets removed, I'll shelve her, because I just can't stand her old R. I also can't understand people who say that it's too hard to press 2 buttons, but hey, not every champion is for them.

Look I completly agree but what can we do. I surrendered this argument for the sake of Le blanc noobs... The live R is core of what le blanc is, if clone gets removed ):;:::::::::::::::::::::::::: tears, also the cooldown , mah soul ma hearth

IP Masquerena1 votes

I didn't say halve the range of normal W, but of RW, so W is normal range, but RW is half the range, and you can add some damage back into RW to compensate. So her EW or QW combos are still there, but the WRW escape range will be much shorter than what it is now. That's what I ment.

Poske1 votes

Her ultimate copies her last ability

With your change her ultimate copies her last ability but halfs a W range if it happens to be W

I mean that alone can tell you why that is a bad suggestion.

Sometimes her W distortion does more damage then mimic distortion, At level 4-5 W distortion is stronger. its not like you cannot use Mimic W for the same combos

IP Masquerena1 votes

Ok, let me say it more slowly: They can keep her current ultimate, that doesn't copy her last ability, but halve the range of W. So if you press R and chose W, you will have a half range W, but on the other hand, you have access to RQ, RE or RR, regardless of which was her last used spell.

Poske1 votes

I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID THE FIRST TIME

its a bad suggestion

With your suggestion it can no longer be worded "copies her last ability"

130x1 votes

I never saw a problem with leblanc pre rework and never understood why it happened. She was high skill cap and all skill shots already. Fit in the current league perfectly.

Poske1 votes

Ehm. True Le blanc never needed a rework

Her time to get reworked should have realisticly been in 2042 given how well made champion she is / was

Granted her rework was successful. I rate New Le blanc as 5% more healthy and interesting champion then old Le blanc But then again reworking her just so she becomes only a lil better... is debatable.

However thats all in the past I am focusing on the present and toxic revert gutting she is receiving and removal of what was good about a rework

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