She's also a lane bully.
And it is NOT ok. She's strong at all stages of the game and can do everything.
And don't say she has a weak mid game because that's one of the biggest myths still surviving in the game.
Shonjl28 votesCait is the least threatening ADC, people just don't know how to fight her. Literally every single ADC can outduel her easily. She doesn't have the power to fight. She has to poke you down to kill you. I love Ashe, want to know what I do when I am against Cait? I walk into her, I can take her burst and then blow her up since my autos will hurt VASTLY more than hers, if I just sit back and let her Q me down and then burst me, no wonder I will lose.
She HAS to get hurricane to even be useful to proc her headshot faster and even then that stops her from getting going fast. While she generally will get a BF sword then Hurricane, I can get a Bloodthirster and IE by the time she has IE and Hurricane and kill her easily since I have more AS than her due to Q and I can draintank her easily.
Her traps are more annoying than actually useful, I will never run into them unless I purposely do so to get rid of them, so other than putting a few into a bush to stop bush monkeys like Thresh and Blitz from camping in them all day she basically only has 2 abilities, her net which she has to use as an escape or as part of her combo, and a Q that isn't that hard to dodge.
Supreme Senpai695 votesBasically you player her cuz she's safe, right? Traps make her ungankable, range makes her able to CS. You just play her to not be countered and to farm up.
AFilthyCaitMain2 votesErrr not really. Her traps have a lot of things to make them counterable. basically the only way you can touch one is by facechecking no vision places and being reckless when chasing. She is pretty safe though, but once she uses up her escaped shes an easy kill.
ˉˉˉˉˉˉ11 votesHaha yeah her placing 5 traps around you gives great counterplay options right?
Play Draven vs 5 traps around you, then we'll talk.
undesirable team6 votesPlay Draven vs 5 traps around you, then we'll talk.
i feel you
IllegalBagel2 votesshe can be outdueled 1v1 BUT SHE HAS A SUPPORT
TyrekGoldenspear22 votesHmm...
OP has Jinx in their name...
Wants Caitlyn nerfed...
CrossbowRanger2 votesJinx needs long range crit to make up for cait. [slayer-jinx-wink]
BananaSlayerAMO15 votesAlthough I agree that Caitlyn is a strong pick, I can think of some possible weaknesses (correct me if I'm wrong here):
For an adc, Cait does low dps through autoattacking (compare to 
, who has higher base attack speed, and 
, who have much higher attack damage and attack speed), so Cait actually relies on skillshots a lot
I don't think she's actually good at dueling compared to some adc's (eg. 
)
Her ult is least useful in teamfights
She doesn't do much aoe dmg (compared to 
, even 
)
While her poke is good, it's not the best (
)
Same with mobility ( )
PhDs Nuts2 votesAlthough I agree that Caitlyn is a strong pick, I can think of some possible weaknesses (correct me if I'm wrong here):
- For an adc, Cait does low dps through autoattacking (compare to
- I don't think she's actually good at dueling compared to some adc's (eg.
- Her ult is least useful in teamfights
- She doesn't do much aoe dmg (compared to
- While her poke is good, it's not the best (
- Same with mobility (
Cait is a burst ADC in duels. She's more like Corki. And LOL at Jhin being an AoE ADC.
BananaSlayerAMO8 votesTo properly burst, Cait is needs to land her trap or Q, which is unlikely in duels. She belongs in the backline of teamfights where the enemies are too occupied to dodge her skills.
Shaco Psycho5 votesOr, her E. People under estimate that. I'm a cait main, and I'll engage with a net on them for a guranteed headshot, and then as they run away (slowed) I land an easy Q. In lane that's a trade that takes (typically) half their health, leaves me relatively close to my own minions, and only takes me half a second to pull off.
Now, this takes practice to pull off, and you have to manipulate the wave such that you can get your E on her, but if you do it successfully you take half their health for little to no return dmg.
Is it broken? No, I don't think so. It relies on landing two skill shots and manipulating the wave such that you can pull it off, but when it works, it's devastating.
If I'm dueling 1v1, in the middle of river (For an example) I'll engage the same way. As soon as my Q fires, I lay a trap between them and me, and another one right after diagonally downwards from the one I just laid and kite backwards. If they follow me towards my traps, I walk forward and place one behind them and they die.
If they try to run away, I just auto them to death as they are already around half health (And typically the E slow has made it very easy for me to do this).
A little off topic, but if you're lucky. Auto, E, Q, Auto (Sometimes x2) into R is almost a guaranteed kill if I'm at least equal with the enemy ADC. Depends on their build and champ of course.
undesirable team3 votesI'm a cait main
i despise people like you
Shaco Psycho1 votesAw :(. But I've been playing her since S4, not just because she's really strong right now. Does that make it less shameful? :P
crippler383 votes 4? you're fine.
Sadistic Veigar2 votesAlthough I agree that Caitlyn is a strong pick, I can think of some possible weaknesses (correct me if I'm wrong here):
For an adc, Cait does low dps through autoattacking (compare to
I don't think she's actually good at dueling compared to some adc's (eg.
Her ult is least useful in teamfights
She doesn't do much aoe dmg (compared to
While her poke is good, it's not the best (
Same with mobility (
This. Cait is like tier 2 at best.
TyroneWatermelon1 voteswell that's a typical compare argument isn't it? fair enough:
For an Adc , she still has a high DPS through autoattacking compared to 
She is a good duelist compared to some adc's (eg. 
Her ult isn't meant to be a teamfighting tool but still there are other useless teamfighting ults
She does a lot more aoe damage compared to 
She has a poke unlike
She has mobility unlike 
BluePolarizer2 votesKog is a better duelist. If he gets items, even when 0-10, he doesn't even need to kite. He just stands there, autoing and draintanking people for all the 3 seconds he needs to kill even tanks.
xelaker2 votesAlthough I agree that Caitlyn is a strong pick, I can think of some possible weaknesses (correct me if I'm wrong here):
For an adc, Cait does low dps through autoattacking (compare to
I don't think she's actually good at dueling compared to some adc's (eg.
Her ult is least useful in teamfights
She doesn't do much aoe dmg (compared to
While her poke is good, it's not the best (
Same with mobility (
wth is this?!? LOGIC?? get out of here! this in an anti cait circle-jerk
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesAlthough I agree that Caitlyn is a strong pick, I can think of some possible weaknesses (correct me if I'm wrong here):
For an adc, Cait does low dps through autoattacking (compare to
I don't think she's actually good at dueling compared to some adc's (eg.
Her ult is least useful in teamfights
She doesn't do much aoe dmg (compared to
While her poke is good, it's not the best (
Same with mobility (
wow i wonder why do i see caitlyn more all of these combined
AFilthyCaitMain3 votesUh, no. If youd actually play her youd know her mid game isnt too good. If she cant get ahead, she cant do ANYTHING really. You have to stay back, farm, stay way back in teamfights, mostly relying on your abilities, and just wait for your item power spike that comes around her PD/RFC(also her power spikes arent smooth, you can tell when she gets one of her relevant ones, usually which is about 1-3 of her major items). Now for hypercarry, thats iffy. She needs her full build and your mechanics have to be on fleek to hypercarry. Also to hypercarry you need lots of lifesteal or some other defence.
-A Caitlyn Main
PhDs Nuts4 votesUh, no. If youd actually play her youd know her mid game isnt too good. If she cant get ahead, she cant do ANYTHING really. You have to stay back, farm, stay way back in teamfights, mostly relying on your abilities, and just wait for your item power spike that comes around her PD/RFC(also her power spikes arent smooth, you can tell when she gets one of her relevant ones, usually which is about 1-3 of her major items). Now for hypercarry, thats iffy. She needs her full build and your mechanics have to be on fleek to hypercarry. Also to hypercarry you need lots of lifesteal or some other defence.
-A Caitlyn Main
"Needs her full build to be a hyper carry"
Do you even define, bro?
Her mid game is very strong with 
AFilthyCaitMain1 votesYa i made a new comment on it, i messed that up.
AFilthyCaitMain2 votesAlso, just runaans and IE isnt enough for dealing huge damage. Let me math here.
So i build this on her when i go
and so on
This simply isnt enough for her to do too much BECAUSE,
Lets say shes level 13. Her BASE AD is 77.5. so
77.5 + 8(D Blade) + 70 AD (IE) + 15 on hit physical damage (runaans) = 170.5 damage, NOT including the armor and stuff on the enemy.
Now attack speed, id guess with what we built so far im pretty sure its around 1-1.5 AS, probably less than the max.
Now for crit, shes got 50%, this isnt enough to do anything considering her AD. EDIT: her crits would do 426 AD because the IE passive, mb, still not the absolute scariest thing though.
now 
or 
gives her the crit and AS she needs to start her spike, as it gives her Crit and AS huge buffs.
Did i do my math right?
Cocho3 votesI feel like people just can't play 
to near her max potential. She isn't a hard champion to play per se, but there is a really big difference between a good and a great .
Although annoying to play against, if she isn't problematic in solo queue or competitive play, then I don't see a reason to touch her.
Dominick Destine3 votesExecution Move
You mean her ult? LOL.
Caitlyn has one of the worst ults in the game.
Finn Teh Human3 votesIs she a hypercarry? No lmao. However I feel that Caitlyn is no longer the early game ADC pick, she is just what people pick to have an easier lane because she's harder to mess up. I think she shouldn't be as useless as she is mid/late. She has too much poke and too much all in with her (Caitlyn players know this) Headshot/W/E.
Inuyasha999992 votesshe isnt a duelist and has no execution move and she isnt a hyper carry or a teamfighter
Hello I am Bird1 votesNo execution move?
wtf is her ult?
Gear5Luffy2 votesshe is like 
who have been dominating for patches and still no changes to them
Gallows madness2 votesPeople don't even know she has the worst attack scaling in the entire class (teemo and urgot have better scaling) she is right under sivir has the lowest attack speed scaling in the game which is precisely why she has a weaker mid game then all the others.
She also can't hyper carry because when she can then i'll shit my self.
The reason jinx is ALLOWED to be called the HYPERCARRY of adc's with twitch is because she has AOE with twitch AUTO ATTACKS with range and she has MOVEMENT SPEED to ACTUALLY kite the 1v5 what twitch has is that he will go behind the enemy CATCH THEM OFF GAURD and SPRAY which is exactly his ult at 800 range people usually don't have time to react to twitch and he can reset q and get movement speed from it making him a hyper carry
Caitlyn has 1 e then is immobile and her traps have a delay and I play tryndamere and if i EVER see a caitlyn a lone I will solely destroy her idc if i'm 0/4 and she is 11/5 I will be able to destroy her, HOW? because I farm harder than my enemy laner even if I lost lane and Caitlyn can be caught out when u dodge her e and traps but with jinx you have to walking around her e and when you do she can w slowing you down unless u side step it which gives her time to move further back making it harder to get up close to her as such with caitlyn
Xela Syab2 votesShe doesn't have lategame damage, she doesn't have burst, she doesn't have a combo, she doesn't have sustained damage, she has one of the slowest movespeed in the game, her ult is counterable.... essentially she has to poke to win the laning phase and get enough peel to do damage or if you have a teamcomp that has 0 initation cc or damage to take her out. Literally the only way cait wins is if she hard pushes your lane and your jungler/mid never comes to punish her or you misplay so bad where she lands every skillshot and you step on all her traps.
Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votesShe does have combo's. They're just a lot less impactful then other ADC's.
Ultra Rapid Fyre2 votesman... shes so good shes currently only the 8th strongest ADC... guess that means shes op
Carl Grimes TWD12 votesThe only obnoxious trait about Caitlyn is her traps.
agbudar2 votestraps need to be reworked /thread
Troll for Trump1 votesJinx,Luc,Draven were supposed to be bullies.
Jinx doesn't do that anymore. Luc stopped building Crit. Draven sometimes build crit, and sometimes doesn't.
ˉˉˉˉˉˉ4 votesAs a Draven main, I can agree Draven has not been satisfying to play lately, even when "fed"
Gelmous1 votesi personally think that i'm starting to suck as Draven rather than him being un fun to play
ˉˉˉˉˉˉ1 votesNah, at first I thought that too, since I could easily carry games.
It's Season 7 at work, the ridiculous meta and "balance."
Draven cannot thrive as well anymore, cause what's the point of being 13/0/9, with multiple full items, if you still get one-shot by the 0/9 Talon with a Serrated Dirk?
Gelmous1 votesthere's never been a situation where a 0/9 Assassin was a problem to me, there's no one Draven can't kill if he's ahead
Unlucky471 votesCait is ridiculous but jhin, varus, ezreal, and lucian are bigger problems right now. Once they get addressed, then they should fix caitlyn. Also it's irritating hearing she has a weak mid game because people don't understand what that means. Saying she has a weak mid game would mean she is likely to lose during that time, but she still retains over 50% winrate. Her mid game is weaker than her early and late but that does not mean that it's weak.
Skias1 votesCait is ridiculous but jhin, varus, ezreal, and lucian are bigger problems right now. Once they get addressed, then they should fix caitlyn. Also it's irritating hearing she has a weak mid game because people don't understand what that means. Saying she has a weak mid game would mean she is likely to lose during that time, but she still retains over 50% winrate. Her mid game is weaker than her early and late but that does not mean that it's weak.
At least Ezreal requires a good deal of skill. The problem is how easy to access Caitlyn's power is. Jhin is similar to Ezreal, he requires some ability. Varus, I don't know how I feel about him. Caitlyn has a low skill floor and low skill ceiling, which makes her power overbearing.
Unlucky471 votesMaybe ezreal used to require skill but his qs aren't that hard to land and they destroy health bars. You can't even build against ezreal because of how much damage he does. I don't think jhin requires skill in the slightest. Maybe a little for effective ults but outside of that not really. And I don't think caitlyn's skill ceiling is any lower than most of the adcs. The adc class as a whole can only do so much and learning mechanics on one will transfer over to a couple. Like there's barely any difference between ashe and twitch really.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesEzreals who can only Q will be deadweight for their teammates. You are better off picking any other adc than ez if you can't weave AAs in between.
Scien1 votesRiddle me this batman, why do all my caitlyns feed?
Standgrounding1 votes...and all enemy caitlyns are 10/0?
h5LYF41Lam1 votesno shes not,look at the statistics.
sobi9991 votesPLz ffs fix her traps snaring you under your own fkn tower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why can't we destroy them like we can destroy teemo's mushroom under tower?
jinxedchef1 votesShe needs a change with the traps. No one has area denial like she does.
