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Can we stop with the true damage

WhereTheNamesAt·9/1/2015, 7:19:37 AM·6 votes·916 views

Kinda feel like posting a QQ thread about true damage and how insane it is for this game. I don't know why you guys feel that a champs kit is so bad that the only way they would be relevant is to give them damage that completely ignores all resistances. Above all though, I will never understand the point of putting %True damage on any champ to make up a majority of their damage.

Fiora:

  • With 40% CDR and Q max, if she hits a single enemy with her Q it is reduced to <2 second codlin
  • Since the vitals rotate out she can wait until she gets an easy one to hit and do %True damage
  • After striking it she gets a movement speed boost that basically negates any chance to return damage
  • Practically has a spell shield 2.0 that can reflect hard cc
  • Can now build tanky and still do tons of damage
  • Very nice AoE team heal
  • Now has a slow and guaranteed crit multiplier

Vayne: (Don't even know where to start here)

  • %True Damage every 3rd auto. Practically finishes every game with above 2.0 attack speed (procs it about every 1.5 seconds)
  • Every other ADC has been nerfed and can no longer put up much of a challenge once Vayne gets 6 or Bork. No longer has to pay for her late game with a shit laning phase
  • All the player needs to know how to do is position semi-decently
  • Has a free control dash on <2 second cooldown
  • Her core build is 1st item Bork and 3rd-4th item LW which are main items to kill tanks anyways
  • Is one of the few ADCs with hard cc in their kit. (Should I mention that it can pin from 3/4th the lane)
  • Invisibility on ult (inb4 pink ward or upgraded lens)
  • Has no skill shots that she needs to land
  • Whole kit is based around mobility and a bunch of free stats
  • ULT ALSO EVEN GIVES MORE FREE STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Garen:

  • Lvl 6 ult on villain does around 350 true damage. Which is usually around half health of most carry champs
  • Has pretty strong wave clear with spin to win
  • Still has a fucking silence
  • bonus movement speed
  • 30% damage reduction for 6 seconds (thats like twice as long as old Khazix but Garen builds full tank anyways)
  • His passive still regens almost more than Warmog's
  • W passive makes him tankier while still building tank

Darius:

  • You have somehow managed to make his early game laning phase better than it was pre-rework
  • Their is now no reason to not try and lotto penta kills with his ult
  • Has a pull that also slows plus another slow on W
  • Bleed DoT is still as toxic as ever
  • Free %Armor pen
  • Please tell me where you got the drugs that made you guys think a 30% missing health heal on 3 second cooldown was a good idea (If I had those drugs I probably wouldn't be writing this right now)

I could probably mention a few other champs with true damage (Irelia, Olaf, Cho'gath, Yi) that possibly don't need it, but that is for another thread. I encourage comments and discussions as to why the community do or do not think these champs are OP.

P.S. -- Hotfixing is a terrible way of fixing things unless a champ is extremely over powered. No reason to buff Darius right now, could of at least waited till the next patch where we can see the changes you make in the patch notes

8 Comments

redniwediS9/1/2015, 7:25:24 AM5 votes

Well, you definitely used the correct format for a QQ thread. Listing champion strengths but not impartially listing weaknesses is a hallmark of the QQ thread, after all.

Vicarious1179/1/2015, 7:27:37 AM3 votes

When you consider the number of total champions, and that 2 of those 4 champs you have up there have always had their true damage, it's really not all that much.

The addition of it to Garen is just so he has some way of not falling off, not too mention it's just kind of a way to keep him in line with Darius, who has always had true damage and has always had good waveclear and bullying potential. Yeah he's a bit too strong atm but it's not due to his villain modifiers.

Speaking of Darius, laning against him seems easier now to me, just don't let him get 5 stacks (and with his nerfed attack speed overall isn't all that easy) and stay out of his AoE which you can easily see now. Or even just get closer during his wind up since the inside of the swing does next to nothing. But he is SUPPOSED to be a lane bully, it's his role and why he's so easy to gank.

And then adding true to Fiora is like... only the second champion ever to have true damage attacks outside of Darius' ult. Yeah if this becomes a trend it will be an issue, but Riot has even said not so long ago that Fiora is the last champ on their list atm to get true damage attacks, and seeing how she's only one of two, I don't think it's all that bad. Not too mention, the old Fiora was faaaaaaaar more toxic then the current one, her ult was the freakin definition of toxic! lol

TheXtractor9/1/2015, 7:52:34 AM1 votes

according to champion.gg vayne does 17% true damage, fiora 21%, garen 12% (garen does more magic than true damage) and darius also 17%. So they all do a majority of Phsyical damage which can be mitigated by armorr

Gregor Gysi9/1/2015, 1:33:56 PM1 votes

Certainly True Damage.

HayRoss9/1/2015, 5:49:28 PM1 votes

"Garen builds full tank anyways"

Building Garen full tank is about as fun as watching televised golf while reading the phonebook.

ThatToxicTroll9/1/2015, 5:54:11 PM1 votes

its %hp true damage that is fcked because of how it negates all defense items runes and defense mastery tree