devourer synergized very well with her kit because of this
i'll admit to shyv being too strong when she was a top tier jungler, but after the q nerfs her early game power was reduced substantially and she's in a fine spot right now.
but i feel like riot is hellbent on gutting her. seriously what the fuck? do i have to become a filthy rageblade abuser just to win games now?
yukumari6 votesThen by the item? Champions like Xin yi and Irelia used to never buy Ragelade. Now they do. Items change, and if it forces you to change how you build your champ, roll with the punches. This isn't meant to be a nerf to shyv, it's meant to be a shift in power overall.
Irelia Bot4 votesThen by the item? Champions like Xin yi and Irelia used to never buy Gunblade. Now they do. Items change, and if it forces you to change how you build your champ, roll with the punches. This isn't meant to be a nerf to shyv, it's meant to be a shift in power overall.
Irelia buys rageblade more out of trinity not feeling as good after preseason changes then anything.
yukumari1 votesWoops meant Rageblade my bad~
AsphodelNext2 votesMaybe there'll be a new build for Shyvana that goes Warrior over Devourer's replacement. Definitely won't be as strong, but probably still viable. Hopefully Riot will revert the early game Q nerfs, but given their track record they probably won't.....
TehNACHO2 votesShe's still pretty much a top performer in all areas except takedowns, which is unnecessary if you play the objective game. Seems like a nerf is in order.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votesrageblade. is really bad on shyvanna. idk how to explain it. but every time i build it its a massive failiure. she doesnt have the sticking power of yi or xin to make use of rageblade that much. and she doesnt have on hit magic like jax to use its stats to the fullest. and she doesnt have any steroid to stack it faster. like yi ult or xin w or jax passive. its really. really. terrible on her. wits end is better on her honestly. not saying much tho.
shyv2 votestell that to yukimari, pretty sure that idiot has never played shyvana in his life lmao
Vicarious1171 votes[slayer-jinx-unamused]
LadyRenly2 votesbecause sated shyvana needs to die in a fire.
shyv1 voteswhat a bronze comment
"i don't like this champ, so she deserves to be sejuani'd"
Vicarious1171 votesThis whole thread is bronze as fuck, Shyv is a right clicking freelo monster who rewards junglers who can't fucking jungle properly, so making her build squishier in order to do as much damage as she currently does is just forcing the people playing her to actually get better...... Jumping into every single fight they can after they've afk farmed for 20 mins and imploding enemy carries while being tanky as fuck is not what one calls balanced.
shyv1 votesif you can't figure out how to play against a devourer jungler then it's you that's a fucking terrible jungler. it takes a solid 20 minutes for most people to get sated. you really can't figure out how to win the game when you have a MASSIVE advantage for 15-20 minutes?
when shyvana doesn't show up to countergank, doesn't take any turrets, doesn't help her team, for 20 fucking minutes, you can't figure out how to get an advantage in that time?
there's a reason that devourer is bad in high elo. you clearly aren't high elo or good at league of legends, so i think your argument is invalid anyways, and i'm mostly just replying to laugh at you this point. thanks though.
Vicarious1171 voteslol my oh my you sure are making wild assumptions and connecting dots that didn't exist!
I never said devourer junglers were hard to bear and I never said afk farmers didn't often lose for that reason, that's part of the fucking problem you pleb. I often have that idiot devourer Shyv on my team afk farming and just letting the enemy Lee Sin single handedly win the game because he actually knows how to fucking jungle.
The fact here is that it's not healthy and bad junglers swarm these kinds of champs with these builds, providing them with stupid as fuck scaling should their team be able to hold off until their jungler can catch the fuck up, or just hurting their teams cause they never bothered to learn how to actually jungle.
Your assumptions are invalid, mr. casual shyv.
shyv1 voteswhy do you talk like a pretentious english major that has never kissed a girl
....... anyways. im bored of you now. you can leave.
Vicarious1171 voteslol how typical, losses the argument so resorts to an insanely unoriginal insult then claims to be "bored" so he can hopefully avoid continuing the argument he now knows he lost.
Fantastically stereotypical, well done!
ModAzure Ole1 votesThey'll probably be looking at compensation buffs to champs negatively influenced by this, like Shy or Jax
shyv1 votesit's riot we're talking about.
Beldair1 votesI always bought Cinderhulk on her for the added health. Worked fine for me too with warmogs, ravenous hydra, blood thirster, berserkers greaves, and duskblade.
Vicarious1171 votesShe's still OP, making her buy squishier items in order to have as much damage as she does instead of letting her build tankier items yet still 100-0ing carries is just balancing her. Sorry your right clicking freelo will finally be at least slightly balanced...
shyv1 votesi don't play shyv for """freelo""" because i hate ranked this season anyways and refuse to play it. just because im a casual player doesn't mean i want my favourite champ gutted.
and i've been maining her since before devourer, since like season 4...
i play her because she's fun and i love her. but it's A LOT LESS FUN when riot keeps fucking with her. especially when i want to play her top and she's balanced around jungle.
Vicarious1171 votesDoesn't matter what you personally play, she is one of the freelo champs right now, that's just a fact.
Also devourer is what made her stupid ridiculous, again, so them changing it is helping to balance her, like I said, so it really doesn't matter how long you've mained her for.
And she's balanced around the jungle cause she's better in the jungle. That shouldn't stop you though, I still play Rengar top even though he's balanced around the jungle as well, just be prepared for more bad match ups then good ones.
Wenderwall1 votesNot sure which nerfs you are talking about, if it is about gutting devour then it's good.
With jungle + drag changes it'll be easier to counter jg and no need to afk farm. Just go for the Red + Blue + drag which are visible globally. And she can build bruiser ( Enchantment: cinderhulk ,
) or Enchantment: Bloodrazor (which is better than 
) 
and rest tanky items.
Current Dragons Health - 3500 (+ 240* level). At level 6 it's 4940hp. As of now she can solo a dragon at lvl6. With new changes, she'll deal 148.2 physical damage compared to >30 Magic damage on hit.