Who still builds Rageblade after the 9.10 changes?

ContDeCaterinca1·May 17, 2019·1 votes·2,254 views

I know for sure Master Yi players stopped using it. How about Vayne, Kog, Kaisa, Varus, Kayle?

Is it still core for them or they can choose something else with similar results?

18 Comments

KentzVkMay 17, 20192 votes

Rito nerf rageblade so many times but never buff kog or Varus. Kog have atm lower playrate as kalista this is sad

Nik NikersonMay 17, 20191 votes

It shouldn't be surprising. Kog is the adc that most requires a specific style of team comp/meta to be effective. He doesn't need rageblade to be good, he needs the right circumstances for him as a champion to be good. He'll be back when the pendulum swings back in his favor.

letsfeedtogetherMay 17, 20191 votes

Kaisa Vayne KogMaw Varus Kayle

Polaris IMay 17, 20191 votes

Most still use it even though it’s garbage because it’s their only option mostly, Ezreal is really good with it for the dual pen

letsfeedtogetherMay 17, 20191 votes

how is ezreal good with it what double pen dosent do anything when its the only reason you buy the item for

Polaris IMay 17, 20191 votes

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how is ezreal good with it what double pen dosent do anything when its the only reason you buy the item for

Just some thoughts going around the ezreal community and because he build bork muramana the on-hit phantom hit us decent since ezreal can also aa

letsfeedtogetherMay 17, 20191 votes

Ezreal does not aa so much like other adcs. so its not worth . Bork isnt the ezreal build most of the times now its ap items.

Polaris IMay 17, 20191 votes

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Ezreal does not aa so much like other adcs. so its not worth . Bork isnt the ezreal build most of the times now its ap items.

Most ezreal only use their abilities when their aa still hurts and yeah the ap build is better and extremely busted from his high ratios. Dual pen is still really good but it’s just a idea going around the ezreal community

letsfeedtogetherMay 17, 20191 votes

"ezreal community" sub reddit isnt the whole ezreal community

Nik NikersonMay 17, 20191 votes

I'm not an Ez expert, but Bork is a common enough build for me. The bigger problem I see, is that at best Bork is a third item at best. Meaning that if you were to go for the Bork/Rageblade combo, you have to get to 4 items, because you're clearly not giving up Manamune or your Sheen item. And that's assuming you don't need to build a situational item like QSS. It's just so expensive, and comes online so late that I barely ever have games go long enough to consider it.

MoonscourgeMay 18, 20191 votes

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Most still use it even though it’s garbage because it’s their only option mostly, Ezreal is really good with it for the dual pen

It's still an item that is more than 100% gold efficient, so buying it certainly is not awful if you scale with AD and AS.

PhieldworkerMay 17, 20191 votes

I think it mostly hit people who had on hit passives that procted on the 2nd ghost hit. So like vayne, yi, Varus now can’t just hit you twice and get their passive going off they have to hit you the 3 times like normal.

ContDeCaterinca1May 17, 20191 votes

Vayne gets 2 procs every 5 attacks instead of 6 once Rageblade is stacked. It's not exactly 100% like normal, but far more balanced if you ask me.

PhieldworkerMay 17, 20191 votes

True true. Thanks for the clarification. But yeah I like where it’s at now.

Rob18446May 17, 20191 votes

According to most the stats sites it's still one of yi's best items, either his crit builds still worse or the changes didnt hit as hard as some people thought, that's just the stats though._

SartheroMay 17, 20191 votes

I still think it is the best option for Master Yi. Crit just doesn't do enough sustained damage and your too squishy. Plus he still synergizes too well with on hit. The "new builds" with spear and black cleaver just don't do enough damage. Sure you might get lucky and isolate a squishy with Q, but that gets more and more rare the higher you climb. Master Yi isn't really an assassin, he has no real escapes. He is an all in champ and he needs sustained damage.

The rageblade nerf on top of the AD nerf on E was a pretty big hit. His win rate already falls off hard Plat+ because he is such a one sided champ. Damage is all he has and now it's been gutted and just removing the .1 second cast time from Q & W isn't enough to compensate. He has no CC, no escapes and is very squishy. Kind of sucks being a Yi main, I don't think he is in a very good spot right now. I expect his Plat+ win rate is going to bottom out in short order.

U.gg has his win rate ranked 50th in Plat with 51.52%. He drops to 140th with a 48.46% win rate in Diamond. Lower still in Masters.

I like playing late game hypercarries. I like knowing that if I survive the early game well enough that I can become an unstoppable late game monster. I don't think that is unfair. It is the reward you get for giving the enemy the chance to abuse your early game. It is nothing but their fault if they don't take advantage. He has always been a high risk / high reward champ, its just in lower ELO it is basically "League of Damage" and Master Yi is king. Low elo players don't press advantages. Simple as that.

It's pretty ridiculous that Riot actually stated "We want to increase the satisfaction on key parts of Master Yi's kit while nerfing him in ways that'll help out those who don't know how to counter him." That's basically a giant f**king L2P sign, but instead the champ just got nerfed. Grouping has always been the achilles heel for low elo.

GodlyBaneMay 17, 20191 votes

literally no one except ranged champs who LIVE LONG ENOUGH to get the 3 autos off in the first place. Master Yi dies before he can do anything with rageblade, Jax just doesnt need it, Udyr cant get it anymore because not even he can utilize it anymore. Its a trash item for melee and Riot removed gameplay once more!