Do you guys want a balanced game or a creative one?

U R Good At Game·10/26/2018, 12:59:44 AM·4 votes·3,252 views

Would you rather the game have the potential to be balanced or be able to do whatever you want in an imbalanced game?

I ask this because this is the core issue to a lot of league's balancing issues. They want you to be able to do X Y Z all at the same time so neither X Y OR Z are balanced on their own. Here is an example of a game that would be more balanced or have the potential for balance but less creative:

  • Certain items are class restricted (think about how steraks is now melee only and how good that was!)
  • Champion lane restrictions (Viktor top? Yasuo ADC? Twitch/Kaisa JG? NO MORE! #HowDoYouBalanceAGameForThat)
  • Different runes for each champion type (Mages have their own runes, adcs theirs, etc)

These are just a few examples. Common balance issues in this game are caused because champions abuse tools that were never meant for them and cause disruptive gameplay. If riot had more control over how champions, items and runes were used they would no doubt be able to balance the game in a healthier position because the number of scenarios to balance for is cut drastically. Instead of having to balance X champion for top, mid, adc and JG if you only have to balance them for 1 the odds they will be more balanced in that position are pretty good.

This is true for items too. Riot has to balance tank items, assassin items, fighter items and ADC items knowing that any other class can take those items which often leads to unexpected imbalanced champions. They then nerf these items but then the original class intended to use those items get's fucked.

60 Comments

DOUBLE TAPPED E10/26/2018, 1:02:35 AM5 votes

I'd like a compromise between the two, if I'm being completely honest. I want a game that is as balanced as possible while still allowing for creative strategic options and innovation.

ChargeItDownMid10/26/2018, 5:12:44 AM5 votes

The two are not mutually exclusive. Dota managed to be a more balanced game specifically because it allows more item and role diversity for each champion. The key to balancing a moba is to embrace diversity and not to limit it.

Jamaree10/26/2018, 1:31:38 AM3 votes

People say they want a balanced game but what people want is the creative one. Perfect balance isn’t possible in video games like this, a balanced game would be two characters with the exact same moves, exact same power, exact same everything from height, to reach to skill set, but that isn’t enjoyable past a point.

Case in point, the original karate master for NES was balanced perfectly, but in that balance brought boring, in turn you can a game like street fighter 2 which is incredibly unbalanced as shit, guess which one people would rather see at EVO?

Frosted Tips10/26/2018, 2:27:02 AM3 votes

So this isn't a black and white issue. Creative vs. Perfect balance is a spectrum. I think Dota does it horribly with it being like 80-90% creative and very little balance. I personally think that if we were to choose a rank to balance things around it should be the where around 80% are below the threshold and 20% are above which I think is low to mid plat. That is just my opinion. It is wrong to many, but that is what I would like.

vgamedude10/26/2018, 1:29:45 AM1 votes

I'd rather have lots of variety and differing strategies. Dota manages to do that and balance very well but I haven't played much of it.

SwiftKitten8810/26/2018, 8:53:49 PM1 votes

this thread is extremely misleading

a balanced game grants MORE creativity because if the game it balanced them more thing can be effective an "unbalanced" game mean there is no "creativity" but it forces anyone who wants any remote chance in winning to play a specific way or lose, or just not care about winning.

the more balanced the game it the more creative u can get with your builds... the less balanced the game is.. the more your forced to stick with the only things that can give u any chance in hell of winning.

balance is more important in the end. because balance leads to "creativity". were as you can creatively come up with a horrible idea, and if you do it it wont work and u try something else , but if riot decides to do it.. then they break something.