Who. Just attacking. am really sick of garen bulldozing his way through anybody 1v1 early mid game. he just has too much movement speed with his ability. hes tanky. and he does a lot of damage considering the two other things i mentioned
Photos of Ghosts6 votesUhm let's see.
THE RlVER KlNG3 votes[{quoted}](name=Photos of Ghosts,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5vpTviGo,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-11-20T11:44:13.937+0000)
Uhm let's see.
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Seems legit. Pantheon approves.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesthat is not what i mean. am a jax main i would get raped by garen until late game. so would most of the ones u mentioned
The Rewritten1 votesThen get better LOL
MunchCrunchLunch1 voteshow can I dodge my way out of garen's ultimate? an i out run all his movesets. I can't its just damage.
The Rewritten1 votesThe Rewritten's Ultimate Mini-Guide to Overcome Any Challenge in LoL:
Step 1: Stop QQ'ing
Step 2: Stop feeding
Step 3: Evaluate your situation
Step 4: FUCKING WIN
The Bearded Bard2 votesYou do realize there's more to this game than just going up and using abilities right? If I'm Ziggs and he's Garen and we both just use all of our abilities on each other of course he's going to win, he has more damage because I'm glass cannon and he's probably got damage items that also provide defensive stats. But as Ziggs, I have something he can't get from items, I have range. I can stay out of his extremely small and limited range and toss spells at him while he makes his futile dash through my minefields and satchel charge.
So yes, there are plenty of champions that can survive Garen's abilities while fighting him because there are plenty of champions that simply don't have to be near him to fight him.
Can't wait for someone to mention RFC tho
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesI do realize that. I tried. I picked teemo against him. but hes too tanky. I CANT KILL HIM. and he outfarms me by a lot. and harasses me in lane. he doesn't give a shit i hit him with q or anything. he takes all that damage for days and I make 1 MISTAKE. QWER and am insrantly dead. why does a tank do this much damage, have this much health and move this fast i just don't get it man. Garen is one of the most banned champions in draft mode for a good reason. in literally every game that has a good garen. it takes the whole team to take him down. and he still outdamages a lot of carries. his spin makes him go faster and it chunks away your health faster than a teemo shroom x10. no way you're escaping that. oh you flashed away? say hello to my R. DEMACIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Death. I mean there are some champs that have complicated mechanics that you can find counter play to. but garen is just straight up. in your face damage. you know what am saying? and hes fast. and tanky. there is no bells or whistles. I mean with the turrets this weak he can charge up and turret dive at level 6 and kill you with your health full.
BluePolarizer1 votesGaren wasn't even picked once during worlds. There's a reason for that. He's also completely ignored in my elo (plat). There's a reason for that.
The Bearded Bard2 votesHe's the most banned champion because the majority of people that play this game are idiots.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesnot everyone is skilled. am not. especially in fast twitch games. i cant do it its not osmething u learn.
Hangsterr1 votes
Milodic Mellodi1 votesI'd also say and 
can defeat Garen early game, though this may depend on the role (Top or Jungle).
Quite frankly, anyone can defeat Garen EG as long as they don't have a mindset to feed (or if their damage output isn't really good EG, so Tristana can't without support unless Gay-ren's feeding). I've beaten him with Morgana simply because her Q is so awesome, and that was because I've been forced on occasion to go Top with her because of my teammates.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesthats is not what am saying. what am saying who can just hit to hit with garen and come out alive. am not saying skill or anything like that. or burst damage him.
just go straight up to garen. at level 1-12 use all your aiblities. he uses all his abilities. who comes out alive.
Hangsterr1 votes[deleted]
MunchCrunchLunch2 votesyeah i have no skill but you didn't have to be rude like that. just the way garen requires no skill and all you need to do is press QWER and you're dead.
Milodic Mellodi3 votesI'd say if the only thing you're doing is standing there playing Pokemon with your opponent's Champ, you're going to have a bad time. Moving around, especially where your Minions are concerned, is key to winning duels. Maybe if you're that desperate to see exactly who wins fights without moving, you should go look up how to calculate damage vs defense for each Champ.
MorganFreemanBot1 votesthats is not what am saying. what am saying who can just hit to hit with garen and come out alive. am not saying skill or anything like that. or burst damage him.
just go straight up to garen. at level 1-12 use all your aiblities. he uses all his abilities. who comes out alive.
"Those are some nice tank stats you've got there, be a shame if something were to happen to them.. I'll take that AD while I'm here too."
Decimús1 votesHangsterr ,can you chill pls ,like he is new to the game i assume . Dont be so rude to him like that .........
Critmaster Garen1 votesyou will not find many champions that can beat garen straight up in melee. there would be something wrong with the game if you did. 1v1ing in melee is pretty much the only thing garen is good at.
but trundle and pantheon are 2 champs in particular ive struggled with.
trundle generally works against fighters. hes kindof an anti-bruiser bruiser, turning your defensive stats against you, and reducing your attack damage with his q.
pantheon is just an early game monster.
udyr also can beat garen straight up in a 1v1 very early on, if he goes in for extended trades.
ive also beaten garens with ekko without efford. hes not gonna just beat him strait up in melee, but he can kite him around and poke him down until he can finish him off.
yorick beats him aswell. constant ghoul pokes keep the passive down.
nasus is a bit tricky, but can beat garen aswell. he needs to force him to push lane or take minion aggro for poking at nasus. while nasus outsustains the poke. he doesnt beat garen early on, but if played well can farm easily at his turret until hes strong enough. its almost impossible for garen to harass someone under his turret without taking shots. so if you know how to control the lane and keep it on your side, you can turn it into a free farm lane for you.
gangplank should work aswell. true damage an armor penetrating barrels are nasty.
BluePolarizer1 votesI believe that Garen can actually kite Udyr with his E around minions and can run Pantheon OOM simply by giving up unsafe CS.
ItsStout1 votesDarius, Trundle, Jax (yay Counterstrike blocks his Q!), Tryndamere, Illaoi (once she's out)
Provided you arent the Villan, ofc. And have equal gold.
Chaotic Reks1 votesAP
GT Standard1 votesIt's actually quite easy to kill Garen, if you know how to do it. He's tanky and deals good damage, so it's hard to beat him in a straight up 1v1. He is also very fast (I've had him at 500 movement speed before). So you can't outrun him (usually). But what you can do is out smart him. Garen's abilities have a fairly long cool down. Use this against him. Once he uses his q and e, go in and get a few shots on him. This works especially well as Darius, because of his passive.
I think the key to beating Garen is not to fight him directly, but to juke him and outsmart him. Make him low enough so that he goes back to his turret and heals himself, while you get all the farm.
The goal with playing against Garen is not to kill him, but to make him low so that he either retreats to his turret or recalls. It's nice if you have your jungler hiding in a bush ready to gank :).
Bharhash1 votesAs a Tier 5 Garen, I see the threats to him come in two flavors: match-up threats and permanent threats.
Ekko is a match-up threat. Someone early said that Ekko readily stomped him, but the three times I've faced an Ekko top saw me slaughtering him. And the reason for that is easy. Ekko must get a double hit on his Q to effectively trade with Garen. If you can avoid one or both hits from it, Ekko has a much harder time getting his passive to proc. As well, Ekko's escape is his engage. So if he screws up or misjudges something and used his jump to get to you, he's SOL.
Champions like Fiora, Darius, and Pantheon are all match-up threats. I've both destroyed and been destroyed by these champs on one or more occasions. Personally, I fear a good Fiora more than I do Darius or Pantheon.
Then there are permanent threats. These are the champs who by simple product of their design will fuck Garen up all day long. Jayce is almost the perfect Garen counter. Ranged harass is something that Garen is always weak to. A lot of ranged champs will hurt Garen, like Gnar or Kennen. But what makes Jayce so great as a Garen counter is his melee mode. His Q is a dash + slow to chase when you're ahead. His W is an AoE damage, his E is a knock-back for when you need that distance between you and Garen, and switching into melee mode lets you shred % of Garen's armor and mr.
The day that people recognize how hard Jayce counters Garen is a day I weep.
Other champs that can do bad, bad things to Garen: Elise (Snare, tracking poke, %HP damage), Trundle (AD reduction hurts, man.), Tryndamere (See the aforementioned AD reduction, plus that ultimate.), Gnar (Pokey bastard...).
I did recently have a game against an Irelia that was just infuriating. And since Decisive Strike no longer goes through Dodge, Jax is supposed to be a pretty big deal right now.
Makior721 votesDarius. Everything about his kit is a direct counter to garen. With the bleed if they just stood there trading blows and no one used a skill, a sum, or took minion damage. Darius would win outright.