Riot, remember lissandra?

Dracocrash··3 votes·506 views

You nerfed her HP/level for worlds, successfully gutted her so that she sees so almost no play, and now she is sitting alone in the trash can, surviving on the garbage of other people.

You did the same for shen, but you tried to buff him multiple times on PBE, so atleast hes on the radar.

Can we get some love for her.

11 Comments

Catastrop2 votes

I remember a time when my Level 6 all in was an actual threat.

Seriously though, loss of 15% AP on blue buff, Protobelt nerfs and Abyssal changes hit her a lot harder than other mages.

Dracocrash3 votes

and the gradual zhonya nerfs over time.

BlueBonquet1 votes

The frozen watchers will never return, sad no one cares about the ice queen... Lissandra item 3070

Dracocrash2 votes

I do cries

Korillo1 votes

Liss isn't so bad. The only criticism I have right now is that her passive is a bit weak. But for the most part she does just fine. Love playing Liss.

Dracocrash2 votes

As i asked someone else:

What do you base this opinion on? Statistics or personal experiance.

Since you are a liss player yourself, can you tell me why you think shes fine?

Korillo1 votes

She still fills her role great imo:

  • Great wave clear
  • Can engage/disengage well
  • Can easily get picks

I don't think we see her a lot right now because the meta just isn't great for Liss. The assassin change seems to have gone rather poorly and a lot of the assassins just aren't being play right now. I don't see a ton of Zeds, Talons, Akalis etc. Katarina is getting more play though, it's a nice pick vs her.

We are seeing a lot of mages right now:

  • Lux, Syndra, Cassiopeia, Victor etc. All who do quite well vs Liss, so it's not really a great time to be playing Lissandra.

Still though, I enjoy her, and like I said she still performs her role well imo. I say her passive could use some work because it really only helps her in the early game. She has terrible mana issues early on which is why the passive is useful, but in reality you should be able to manage the mana of any mage you are playing, especially once you get some items.

It would be nice if her passive did something like add additional damage on rooted or frozen characters. Maybe empower her Q or auto-attacks if they are frozen/rooted.

Dracocrash1 votes

hmm, good analysis.

CppL1 votes

Liss is fine.maybe her passive could use some cd buff ,but the rest is fine.

Dracocrash2 votes

What do you base this opinion on? Statistics or personal experiance.

If you base it on personal experiance, then tell me: how many times have you played against a lissandra in the last month? cause its 0 for me.

I think her passive is a toxic,boring party of a kit. (personal opinion). So buffing that would be a mistake.

I just want a revert on the pre-patch worlds nerfs.

CppL1 votes

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What do you base this opinion on? Statistics or personal experiance.

If you base it on personal experiance, then tell me: how many times have you played against a lissandra in the last month? cause its 0 for me.

I think her passive is a toxic,boring party of a kit. (personal opinion). So buffing that would be a mistake.

I just want a revert on the pre-patch worlds nerfs.

Just cause shes not picked or banned ,doesn't mean shes weak.She a fucking cc machine.if played right ,you can win teamfights by yourself.Thats why she was nerfed before worlds.

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