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I call bullshit.
Marksmen items are cheaper and have better multiplicative scaling.
Marksmen just die in half a second because they don't build things like Banshee's veil anymore.
Moody P17 votesthe difference is marksmen spend all game being Eiffel tower'd by mid and jungle so it's harder to get their items
DarkTree12 votes[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5rAr5yEx,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-08T09:31:24.881+0000)
the difference is marksmen spend all game being Eiffel tower'd by mid and jungle so it's harder to get their items
"eiffel tower'd" is a revolutionary verb
D357R0Y3R1 votesI would have called it "bagdad'd"
Lhuhz12 votesI dont know what build path and power spike means and I base my idea of the game based on training mode against target dummies.
Marshbouy1 votesthis is the perfect response to this post
Dynikus12 votes
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Cherrypicking items to try to make it seem like you have a point is pretty silly. AD items in general are just expensive.
Warlord Rhinark4 votes
Cherrypicking items to try to make it seem like you have a point is pretty silly. AD items in general are just expensive.
These aren't necessarily Marksmen items.
DuskDaUmbreon7 votesThey're not. Just like none of the items OP listed are inherently bruiser items. But they're most typically associated with marksmen, while the items OP listed are typically associated with bruisers.
Lhuhz1 votesBut some adc have those items as their core items (specially BotrK and Guinsoo for the on hit adcs) and the others are also bought later by a lot of adcs.
You cant ignore that and pretend that every adc buys crit, anyway this thread is bullshit because it's trying to make it look like crit itemization is better than bruiser itemization just by the gold it cost without looking at anything else when crit itemization is trash.
Dynikus2 votes
buy
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Aside from ranged/melee only items, none of them are exclusive for one role or the other.
WoΘxer1 votesLol. Botrk and Rageblade are core items for some marksmens.
Warlord Rhinark1 votesLol. Botrk and Rageblade are core items for some marksmens.
Rageblade?
Core item for Marksmen?
Hardly.
Dynikus1 votesfor some marksman, yes.
Daddy Ants1 votes[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5rAr5yEx,comment-id=0004000000030000,timestamp=2019-01-08T16:46:45.150+0000)
Rageblade?
Core item for Marksmen?
Hardly.
are core users of Rageblade right now.
can use it, I believe it's situational.
MuteAllFromStart2 votes
Cherrypicking items to try to make it seem like you have a point is pretty silly. AD items in general are just expensive.
OFc they are, cause ADC is a role where they have a support to help them with their income. It would be very strange if the support items were that expensive and ADC items were super-cheap.
I dont know the math but if a wave is worth 140-200g and a support gets ~45 gold per wave <-
Its only logic.
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IG Ziko3 votesDifference is, a Jax with just a tiamat can 1v1 a Storm Razor ADC with ease.
Maybe because Jax counters right clicks?
SaltyCauseBad4 votesJax counters everything
WoΘxer1 votesJax counters everything?
Lol besides how weak his early game is?
What makes him strong item and conqueror rune which turns him murderer late game.
Early game he is nothing more than a walking lampman.
SaltyCauseBad3 votesOh. Is that why my hp bar disappears in 3 seconds against him. My bad then, corrupting potion must be op, not Jax himself.
WoΘxer1 votesU are so delusional that I can't describe how low you are.
Why no one cried about jax before runes forged and Conqueror introduction hmm?
Jax was sitting in neutral position and no one gave a single fk. Player's stated valid reason why he is strong and what makes him strong.
WhispersinMyHead1 votesU are so delusional that I can't describe how low you are.
Why no one cried about jax before runes forged and Conqueror introduction hmm?
Jax was sitting in neutral position and no one gave a single fk. Player's stated valid reason why he is strong and what makes him strong.
I love when random Gold four kids start calling others 'low' when they disagree with their opinions. It fucking makes my day
WoΘxer1 votesEUNE garbages should mute themselves already.
WhispersinMyHead1 votesEUNE garbages should mute themselves already.
GOLD FOUR THAT MAINS LEE SIN CALLING OTHERS TRASH THIS IS TOO GOOD AHAHAHAH
WoΘxer1 votesSo judging my rank felt you better?
Fine come to EUW and u will be silver here, so afterall I can laugh at you. cough judgement came from Darius main u should spam more Urgot, so u can judge EUW challengers here.
Saianna1 votesShould someone tell him that ADCs are glass cannons not meant to be capable to go 1v1 vs assassins or fighters?
Daddy Ants2 votesShould someone tell him that ADCs are glass cannons not meant to be capable to go 1v1 vs assassins or fighters?
If I play the fight better than the enemy assassin or fighter then I should win the fight.
I shouldn't auto lose a fight just because I'm a marksman.
Saianna1 votesEven if you play better, as long as assassins kit has the tools to catch you (and he won't derp too much), you should be dead. That's why ADCs have supports to... you know... support.
Obviously if you have mastered ADC and you know some super secret micro-macro techniques, you will win, but if skills are similar, sorry mate, you should not.
Saezio1 votesDifference is, a Jax with just a tiamat can 1v1 a Storm Razor ADC with ease.
So, you have not seen vayne or lucian or draven lately. Sure if the jax gets to go on top of them which means they fucked up in the first place. Keep in mind just a tiamat means like level 5-6 so Q cd is about 10 sec
Daddy Ants5 votesTrinity Force is a standalone power spike that turns most of it's users from zero to hero.
Infinity Edge needs other items along side it to work.
Once 
get they can more a less 1v9.
DuskDaUmbreon5 votesTrinity is also more valuable of a powerspike than any ADC item, and any of its components are more useful than most ADC item components.
Same goes for either Tiamat item, tbh. BC is roughly on-par with ADC items, but has better components.
Also, you're deliberately ignoring that only two ADC items (BorK and Stormrazor) are any good whatsoever on their own. Have a Zeal item? Zero fucking damage. IE? You're throwing away gold, and have zero fucking AS. LW item? No damage to penetrate with.
Lhuhz2 votesYou have to understand that OP misses being able to play Irelia botlane like on 8.11 and destroy any adc, dont expect him/her to see more than the big gold number.
Marshbouy2 votesMarksmen items are cheaper and have better multiplicative scaling.
I'll fix it for the op
Marksmen items are cheaper but most champions need at least 3 before they start doing any consistent damage
Rexxiee5 votesTrinity force irelia beats any adc with boots 2 stormrazor and rfc.
3700 gold beats over 6k gold.
Not gonna talk about that one huh?
OmegaNITRO2 votesOf course not, that wouldn't suit the narrative of false equivalency OP is presenting.
Granted, even if we took that at face value, it would beg the question that if "marksman items" are cheaper and scale better, why isn't Irelia building them?
VolatileAkali4 votesTheir items aren't expensive, and their strong, but they die so quick by so many champions that it's absurd. Bruisers, Juggernauts, Mages, "Support" Mages and Assassins all delete them or kill them with no problems.
Critmaster Garen1 votesTheir items aren't expensive, and their strong, but they die so quick by so many champions that it's absurd. Bruisers, Juggernauts, Mages, "Support" Mages and Assassins all delete them or kill them with no problems.
id hope so.
if a juggernaut gets into melee range of a marksman he has fulfilled his win condition, while a marksman failing to stay away from a juggernaut has misplayed.
id be offended if marksmen didnt get deleted by juggernauts.
VolatileAkali1 votesYeah, but currently juggs and bruiser do insane damage to everyone, so yeah it's kind of annoying to be against one.
WashyMoney4 votesReally stupid thread. How about compare effectiveness at X gold value instead of comparing how many items at X gold value.
How strong is an AD at 5000 gold vs how strong is a bruiser at 5000 gold?
Guess Tanks are the strongest class cause their items are cheap!! This doesn’t make any sense.
Lauchmelder1 votesUhm no. This doesn't work on here. Try comparing Seekers to Hexdrinker and see the hordes downvote you because "muh l2p"
OtterlyLost2 votesI like how you manage to remember that crit items are multiplicative scaling but ignore how getting three of them(IE and 2 Zeals), as you're intended to do as a crit ADC, also gives you 120% crit, thus over capping you, and thus meaning you just wasted a shitton of gold. How many fighters are wasting 800 gold on their 31 item spike? None because all of the stats on Trinity have been morphed into stats that fighters like regardless.
Also, wow, 3733 gold for an item that literally gives you everything you need to actually be a champion compared to 3400+2800+2800=9000 gold in order to barely function. Its as if, by itself, Trinity force, without looking at its passives, is 94% gold efficient. How gold efficient is IE by itself? 72%.
Daddy Ants1 votesI like how you manage to remember that crit items are multiplicative scaling but ignore how getting three of them(IE and 2 Zeals), as you're intended to do as a crit ADC, also gives you 120% crit, thus over capping you, and thus meaning you just wasted a shitton of gold. How many fighters are wasting 800 gold on their
31 item spike? None because all of the stats on Trinity have been morphed into stats that fighters like regardless.Also, wow, 3733 gold for an item that literally gives you everything you need to actually be a champion compared to 3400+2800+2800=9000 gold in order to barely function. Its as if, by itself, Trinity force, without looking at its passives, is 94% gold efficient. How gold efficient is IE by itself? 72%.
If you mean on it's own with no extra items then I'd say IE isn't 72% gold efficient as the double crit passive and true damage won't be in use due to having no critical strike.
OtterlyLost1 votesWithout the passive(so without any other items), IE is 72% gold efficient. It gains 11% efficiency for every 10% of crit and becomes 100% efficient after at least 1 zeal item. However, most AD's don't start doing damage with just 1 zeal item and considering how awful and inefficient IE is by itself, they aren't going to rush build an IE.
Hypochondria91 votesThis meta is all about popping squishies which markmen can do but only after 2-3 items. While AD assassins and AP champs get a massive 1 item spike at duskblade or ghostblade and ludens.
Hell a champ like Talon can 100-0 with a 
Modl Ryden l1 votesIt's because items like Infinity Edge and Stormrazor are interdependent on having AT LEAST one zeal item. So really having either JUST Infinity Edge or JUST Stormrazor isn't as efficient as having something like JUST Trinity Force. Until getting a Zeal item, the user building them has sunk a LOT of gold until at least building Zeal.
