Current Jungle is too easy

Talamare·Dec 16, 2014·5 votes·1,218 views

You should increase the cooldown of Smite and Increase the Health of Jungle Mobs

Also make them spawn a little later so its harder to get Leashes

15 Comments

ValyrianBladeDec 16, 20146 votes

I'm thinking this is sarcasm and people are missing it.

I.e. Riot is doing / has been doing these things despite people complaining that the jungle is really punishing in a lot of cases.

Kowe The EwokDec 16, 20142 votes

I know it's sarcasm but take care, Riot isn't always good at detecting it.

Dr Clueless PhDDec 16, 20142 votes

Obvious sarcasm is obvious.

Yeah, when you look at changes out of context, they make no sense. IN context however, they are legit. Smite has 2 charges. Machete gives you more damage. You don't NEED a leash anymore between the other changes they're putting out, and this stops the rampant problem at high rating of laners taking a camp at the start of the game.

TalamareDec 16, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Clueless PhD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5dZ9ukTL,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2014-12-16T16:44:49.948+0000) Machete gives you more damage. You don't NEED a leash anymore

They increased Machete damage by 7 per second While increasing the health by 200

Unless you took longer than 28 seconds per camp, it's slower now

Dr Clueless PhDDec 16, 20142 votes

You have 2 charges of Smite. Once again, you need to look at ALL the changes together.

TalamareDec 16, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Clueless PhD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5dZ9ukTL,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2014-12-16T17:01:56.062+0000)

You have 2 charges of Smite. Once again, you need to look at ALL the changes together.

The charges take longer to recharge Its a ganking advantage, sure but definitely a clearing nerf

Oh I guess its a advantage for the slower junglers who need to B right away

Dr Clueless PhDDec 16, 20141 votes

It's a ganking advantage if you use it that way, but you're not seeing the massive buff it actually is to your first clear. Your first camp will take a bit longer, but you also have a Smite for your second camp.

Let's say you start Krugs. The Krugs will take longer to eat through, but now when you go to Red, you have a Smite for it, in addition to the Smite you used on the Krugs.

And your first Smite charge should be back up (even with the CD nerf) for you to go grab the second buff.

TalamareDec 16, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Clueless PhD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5dZ9ukTL,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2014-12-16T17:17:17.094+0000)

It's a ganking advantage if you use it that way, but you're not seeing the massive buff it actually is to your first clear. Your first camp will take a bit longer, but you also have a Smite for your second camp.

Let's say you start Krugs. The Krugs will take longer to eat through, but now when you go to Red, you have a Smite for it, in addition to the Smite you used on the Krugs.

And your first Smite charge should be back up (even with the CD nerf) for you to go grab the second buff.

2nd charge begins charging at 1:40 and takes 75 seconds If you use your first charge at the start of your first camp 2:00 Your 2nd charge will be ready in 55 seconds

So, 5 seconds sooner than current in exchange for no leash and slower clear times

Dr Clueless PhDDec 16, 20141 votes

Are you sure? I could've sworn it started charging immediately. Clearly, I'm misinformed.

TalamareDec 16, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Clueless PhD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5dZ9ukTL,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2014-12-16T17:32:56.289+0000)

Are you sure? I could've sworn it started charging immediately. Clearly, I'm misinformed.

Hmm, Well that was the information I found I might be wrong there too~

Well it was fun discussing it with you

Darth Pixy MisaDec 16, 20142 votes

Even in context it does not make sense: mobs are harder mobs spawn less dragon does not give gold there is less gold in jungle sustain items are gone ward items are gone new jungle items cost too much for what they do

JadeKnightblazerDec 17, 20142 votes

Maybe Riot only does reverse thinking of the forums.... We ask for easyer / proper Jungle tweaks... we get more health on mobs, longer timers, ect.

Time for more posts like this one, maybe just maybe Riot will make the much needed tweaks.

Katniss PotterDec 16, 20141 votes

lol sarcasm

ofartDec 16, 20141 votes

I really like these changes and agree. You may be sarcastic but there are excellent reasons behind what they're doing. It's also not really harder because Machete gives more damage now.

ofartDec 17, 20141 votes

The JG was way too easy before and that made early gankers with high damage overshadow everyone else. Riot is smart with these changes and knows better than the typical forum QQ from people who don't adapt. It's painful to watch how inefficiently people clear the jungle. I'm not surprised people find it hard when they play like that.