Are people seriously complaining about adcs being op?

HarrowR··3 votes·503 views

Literally every game with adc im farming for 30 minutes just so i can do some damage and still if i dare to venture out to try to farm alone a random kayn/zed/kha/yas/yi or who ever wishes jumps out and two shots me,are this people for real,yeah,nerf their dmg,so they are shit both early and late game,that will be a fun class

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Rebonack4 votes

It's a combination of things rather than (most) Marksmen themselves.

  1. Assassin and Mage reworks spread burst out, making it easier to react to their damage
  2. Enchanter itemization got hyper-buffed, making burst easier to invalidate
  3. Tanks got major buffs, making it easier to peel Marksmen
  4. Marksmen items got cheaper, allowing them to spike faster

The issues are less apparent in games where your Tanks and Enchanters are off chasing down a fleeing Nid rather than protecting your from that Kayn who really wants to get inside you.

Penns3 votes

sounds like the people telling me adcs should be able to 1v1 assassins hehe

z63XnLCMwX2 votes

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PhearBunny1 votes

I can really feel the Bronze radiating though the screen with this one, lol. ADC+Support is over powered right now, you may be at a low enough mmr for it to not be noticeable however.

HarrowR1 votes

Says the guy whose last 3 games were jungle Leona and that has negative kda in 80% of his matches.... I was diamond,and i still think adcs are not overpowered,people just dont understand that they are supposed to be strong late game just like assassins are supposed to be strong early/mid game,so it buffles me how people complain adcs are OP even though as an adc main when i take any assassin i can easily stomp people

PhearBunny1 votes

opgg seems to think I'm overwhelmingly positive in my kill to death ratio. But good try.

PhearBunny1 votes

LOL JUST LOOKED YOU UP. I see why youre mad, your a ADC main, in a season where ADCs are overpowered....but you aren't good enough to take advantage of that. In fact you aren't good enough to even manage a 50% winrate while playing the most relevant role of the season.

HarrowR1 votes

Sure,youre still bronze and im still plat

PhearBunny1 votes

you don't even know how to look people up? I'm higher than you dawg.

HarrowR1 votes

Youre plat 5,just as me now,and i didnt play for a year before coming back,droped down to it from diamond,so yeah

PhearBunny1 votes

I can tell lies too. So, same.

z63XnLCMwX1 votes

Lies! No game goes past 25 minutes.

Jokes aside, adcs start doing damage by the time they get item 1038 and item 3086 .

7377062 votes

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adcs start doing damage by the time they get item 1038 and item 3086 .

Was this the joke part? Because let me tell you they will deal absolutely no damage with these items unless you are facing a Draven or Vayne.

Taliyah Rocks1 votes

I used to think like you, until i started playing an assassin. Sure, it might be easy to kill an adc early (usualy) but as soon as they reach 2 or 3 full items, they can actually outtrade and out-damage an assassin (unless the assassin was ahead). Add into that the peel from their support, and adcs become nearly untouchable, while also being able to out-dps everyone else. Also, one mistep from an assassin, and the adc can actually kill them (say Leblanc misses her E). What makes it worse is that the assassin has to go back to base if he fails to kill the adc, while the adc can just sustain back to full from either minions or a jungle camp.

Now whenever i play an adc, i realize how untouchable i feel too, and how powerless most assassins, mages and bruisers feel lategame.

Adc used to have a weak early game to make up for their strong lategame, but with item changes and increase support income, their weakness is almost negated and they have an easier time getting their core items.

ZedUsanGovos1 votes

if i dare to venture out to try to farm alone a random kayn/zed/kha/yas/yi or who ever wishes jumps out and two shots me,are this people for real,yeah,nerf their dmg,so they are shit both early and late game,that will be a fun class

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kayn/zed/kha/yas/yi

venture... alone

Listen buddy, you might be a bit late to the party, but Zed, Kayn, and Kha'Zix are assassins. They're SUPPOSED to jump out and two shot you if you're an ADC all alone. I'm not sure what delusion you wish was a reality where assassins couldn't assassinate a lone squishy, but snap out of it. Yi and Yasuo are skirmishers. They're SUPPOSED to have high damage (arguably not as high as assassins), while still retaining some decent sustain (not on the level of bruisers).

If you're an ADC, and your midlaner is so shit that they can't keep Zed down (either by countering him or at the very least pressuring him to delay his Duskblade powerspike), then that's a team problem. Not Zed's, not Riot's, and not the Assassin/Skirmisher class's. At thirty minutes, if Zed is ahead, don't BabyRage when a champion who is MEANT to snowball and have high damage manages to kill you all alone with the aforementioned high damage and snowball lead. Same with Yasuo (especially Yasuo, with his two item powerspike), and Kha'Zix (with his Duskblade+R interaction), and Kayn, (if he goes SA), and Yi (if he... wtf does Yi do besides right-click?). Oh, and WHY the FUCK are you farming by yourself at 30 fucking minutes? YOURSELF. You have no support to peel and shield and heal, you have no tank to try and disrupt the attack, and you don't even have your own midlane to try and help fight back. For fuck's sake. Stop complaining and crying about situations that you could easily have avoided.

DON'T fucking farm by YOUR-GODDAMN-SELF at 30 minutes, unless you're ahead to the point where you're confident you can 1v2/3. Even then, if you know the enemy assassin/skirmisher/bruiser is ahead, KEEP AT LEAST ONE TEAMMATE WITH YOU. Preferably your support.

DON'T let an assassin/skirmisher fucking snowball.

DO keep your support on hand at all times. Make sure it's a support with good peel and/or shields and can roam. Bard Karma Janna Lulu Sona Alistar Braum Thresh Soraka

DO keep your lane and the map warded and advise your team to do the same as to prevent roams catching you off guard. Especially your Jungler, so that they can keep track of where the enemy JG is. item 2055 item 3363

DO have your midlaner pick a counter to Zed/Yasuo. Don't say there aren't any, because you damn well know there are. Annie Yasuo Morgana Lux Kayle Vladimir Azir Brand Akali

DO have your team (JG and Support) pressure the assassin/skirmisher.

This sounds less like a case of broken assassins who just so happen to be doing their job (assassinating, oh gosh whodathunkit?) and more like a case of careless fuck-ups that culminate in your anus being enlarged three times larger than the Dark Star Singularity.

HarrowR1 votes

wow dude chill youre goiing to have a heart attack, first off im not complaining or crying about assassins one shotting me and farming alone in lane was an example of any situation where you find yourself alone or with someone that cant peel for you and a wild zed appears,i agree that assassins should kill adc if they're alone,i just don't understand the reason why everyone is crying that adcs are op cause at the moment assassins are perfectly capable of killing me,especially if i pick some of the adcs that are immobile and arent good at self peel or 1v1...Thats why i stick to vayne,xayah,lucian,trist etc

ZedUsanGovos1 votes

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wow dude chill youre goiing to have a heart attack, first off im not complaining or crying about assassins one shotting me and farming alone in lane was an example of any situation where you find yourself alone or with someone that cant peel for you and a wild zed appears,i agree that assassins should kill adc if they're alone,i just don't understand the reason why everyone is crying that adcs are op cause at the moment assassins are perfectly capable of killing me,especially if i pick some of the adcs that are immobile and arent good at self peel or 1v1...Thats why i stick to vayne,xayah,lucian,trist etc

Nobody is crying about EVERY single ADC, just the ones who are over the top late-game. Tristana, with her insane tower pushing, Twitch, with his team-shredding without a warning, and for a while back, Caitlyn with her insane damage. Don't even get me started on Lethality Marksmen. An unholy fusion. The thing that was never meant to be.

To your other point, I don't see how assassins being perfectly capable enough to kill you has anything to do with your question of people crying about certain ADCs. What exactly ARE you suggesting? If you yourself agree that assassins should kill lone ADCs, then what exactly are you trying to prove by bringing that very thing up in the context of questioning the community's circlejerk hate for ADCs (and subsequently Ardent Supports like Karma, Janna, and Lulu)? Are you suggesting that ADCs can easily be killed, and thus are not OP? Yeah. No one is talking about ADCs' squishiness. They're talking about the damage the ADCs themselves can deal at times.

Let me give you two scenarios.

Scenario 1: Twitch's stealth runs out just as he's about to reach the enemy team's backline, and the team notices him, then they can rush him and kill him. No issues there, that's to be expected. He most likely shouldn't and wouldn't live unless by some miracle, the whole enemy team is absolute garbage.

Scenario 2: He gets to the backline, has his Janna+Ardent on hand, while still in stealth, and presses R, right-clicks, and unstealths. By that point, you can sure as hell bet that the enemy squishies are already dead. The tanks may survive for longer, if the Twitch has yet to build a Lord Dominik's, but chances are that all the major damage is gone, with no chance of any decent counterattack (note the usage of counter_attack, not counterplay_).

That's what people have a problem with, because it was so unexpected the moment it happened. An ADC should not be able to melt entire teams-- and without a warning at that. THAT is what people consider OP. It has nothing to do with whether the ADC can die easily or not, but with the damage being dealt by Twitch+Janna, or Tristana's insane fucking push potential-- and Lord help you if that Trist has a half decent Ziggs on her team-- then people are obviously gonna be really salty about it.

The same applies to Cho'Gath with his Gargoyle Stonedildo, which literally fucks any and all squishies. The problem with Cho'Gath is that he is both hard to kill AND deals too much damage.

Same applied to assassins pre-season 7, which I agreed with-- even being an assassin main myself. Sure, what Riot did to Rengar was fucking disgusting and horrific, but I'm not gonna lie, even as Zed, I felt there was no time to react to Rengar jumping on me, since I was dead right as I hit R. But that didn't mean Rengar couldn't be killed once his ult was on CD. It was his damage that people hated. Not just Rengar, but Talon (especially Talon), Zed, and Kha'Zix.

i cant move wtf1 votes

A lot of the members on this board are Garen/Volibear mains so not the brightest crayons if you know that I mean. Many other members are assassin mains with poor mechanics so get outplayed by ADCs frequently because they tend to miss their skillshots. Don't take the downvoting too seriously. There's no arguing with tilt unfortunately.

HarrowR1 votes

Yes i see,didnt think people will get all sweaty and raging over this post that they missunderstood anyhow,i never said adcs should be able to be unkillable gods that can 1v1 any assassin or whatever,i just said they're not op,and can still be easily killed,especially if youre playing normal games or ranked with people that dont know or dont care to peel for you

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