Can wits end get some love like black cleaver?

taleofsonata··2 votes·698 views

This is a change I would give to it: Stat: 50% attack speed 30MR Unique Passive: Basic attacks deal 42 BONUS magic damage on hit. Unique: Basic attacks increase your magic resistance by 5% for 5 seconds and reduce the target's magic resistance by 5% on hit (stacks up to 5 times). At Max stack the next abilities cast will do bonus damage based on the number of magic resist stolen. (15% AP ratio + 25% Stolen magic resist)

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Kãtãrinã1 votes

sounds a bit to strong lol

taleofsonata1 votes

its not strong look at black cleaver stats its way stronger

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

Black Cleaver also doesn't have AS and is a more expensive item than Wit's End.

Black Cleaver also is designed to handle the higher resistance stat.

taleofsonata2 votes

Black Cleaver give movement speed and stacks up from any form of physical damage

taleofsonata2 votes

+20% cdr THATS ALOT + 400 health and 40 damage Wits end doesn't give any ap

JustMyBassCannon2 votes

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+20% cdr THATS ALOT + 400 health and 40 damage Wits end doesn't give any ap

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Black Cleaver give movement speed and stacks up from any form of physical damage

Wit's End isn't an AP item, it's an MR shred item that happens on basic attacks. We already have an MR shred item for casters called Abyssal Scepter, and it's getting an upgrade.

In the meantime, Wit's End is designed for attack-based champions that have mixed magic damage, such as Shyvana and Diana.

And, again, Black Cleaver is more expensive than Wit's End.

taleofsonata1 votes

This isn't for caster this is for AP attack speed champion like Kayle,Teemo, even diana, Malphite from PBE, Attack speed cho, Ap warwick, Fizz and many more.

JustMyBassCannon2 votes

Funny thing, most of them can use Abyssal Scepter if they want AP with the MR shred. AS Cho is an off-build, not really a reason to accommodate, same with AP Warwick. Fizz already has Void Staff and relies on burst.

So, yeah, they do have an equivalent to Black Cleaver. Not an exact copy, because there isn't MS on Abyssal Scepter, but it's AP, HP, MR and MR Shred, so it's totally comparable.

taleofsonata1 votes

the thing is the new abyssal scepter are designed for fighter Tank if you check it, it shred the Magic resist of champion that are near them same aura as frozen heart its not big its for big tanks champion like Gragas,Sejuani,Cho gath that are inside the teamfight.

JustMyBassCannon2 votes

I know how the new Abyssal works.

Fun fact, Diana, Malphite and Cho'gath are all AP bruiser type champions. Kayle is a hybrid bruiser. Teemo needs to be reworked anyway, but I see most people building him tanky, so I don't see how this is a bad thing for him.

taleofsonata1 votes

though teemo and kayle are ranged

taleofsonata1 votes

even lulu or orianna could benefit from it

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

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though teemo and kayle are ranged

Which means absolutely nothing

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even lulu or orianna could benefit from it

Oh boy, off-build Lulu and Orianna can benefit from this. It's almost like you ignored what I said earlier about off builds.

taleofsonata1 votes

black cleaver is also cost efficient which means rushing it at any point of the game will matter because the stat is ridiculously broken. and I know black cleaver will get nerfed because I have predicted alot of change and indeed happened.

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

Everything gets nerfs at some point, such a vague prediction can only come true with time.

WeiseAzir1 votes

Zed ;) boyo

jk but Azir buff wouldnt hurt

Cuoco Diavolo1 votes

Idk about that last part I really love wits end but I don't tend to build it on ap champs more on hits that deal magic damage like shyvanna gnar and any of the junglers including shy that I build devourers on

Irelia Bot1 votes

here is what should be done to it. Null-Magic Mantle (500)+ Recurve Bow (1100) + 550 = 2150 cost 26 MR 42% attack speed Unique passive "enchanted blade": 42 on hit magic damge Unique passive "spectral refusal": attacking a unit gives the items owner 4 MR stacking up to 4 times (meaning 42 MR total)

Basically how it was back in season 2 no magic shred passive that only a few champs make great use of.

Now to go overboard with a concept to make it something really good for late game so that marksmen have things to still rage about besides getting blown up by Leblanc when they didn't get a BV

wit's end + Raptor Cloak build into a new revamped Madred's bloodrazor 2150 + 1000 + 350 3500 total 50 on hit magic damage 50% attack speed 40 armor 30 MR Unique passive "enchanted blade": 50 Magic damage on hit Unique passive "spectral refusal": attacking a unit gives 5 armor and MR stacking up to 4 times (so 60 arrmor and 50 MR total) Unique passive Point-runner: Grants +30% bonus movement speed that build up over 2 seconds when near turrets (including fallen turrets).

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