Wits end should we put to the magic penetration cathegory in item sets

ModJango Mage·Dec 24, 2017·24 votes·1,327 views

Since it reduces magic resist. Its kinda like an ap which is in the armor pen cathegory, so it makes sense to put this in the place it belongs too.

15 Comments

AirKingNeoDec 24, 201711 votes

Just make a 'Penatration' tab and put them all in.

5000000000000000Dec 25, 20171 votes

All of them into one?

MuffledGarbageDec 24, 20179 votes

Wits doesn't give ap...

Mages don't want to build it because they'll get melted by anything when they auto for more than 0.5 seconds.

Only special cases like Kayle Teemo and KogMaw want to buy it because they have the stats and the steroids in their kits to make it worth buying.

EDIT:

I forgot to say that I think it should go in both Magic penetration AND in the Attack speed categories due to it's nature

RainbowIceeDec 24, 20172 votes

would have to readjust the whole item and by that point should just make a new item. But if they made an item that reduced MR with consistent dmg then champs like Cassiopeia Swain would break the item day 1.

SeenanDec 25, 20172 votes

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would have to readjust the whole item and by that point should just make a new item. But if they made an item that reduced MR with consistent dmg then champs like would break the item day 1.

Malzahar

RainbowIceeDec 25, 20171 votes

for some reason he always slips my mind.

RainXBladeDec 25, 20171 votes

So basically, you want an AP version of Black Cleaver?

As a Malzahar main, I would love an item like that.

ModJango MageDec 24, 20171 votes

Well neither does item 3001 and its still shown in the MPen cathegory.

MuffledGarbageDec 24, 20171 votes

Effectively Abyssal gives Magic Penetration by making any enemies that are hit with magic attacks have their Magic resistance count for less.

If I have 10 resistance and I get hit by a magic damage move for 10 damage it's in my favor.

BUT if I have 10 resistance and I get hit by a magic damage move that has Abyssal mask buffing it, that makes my 10 resistance into an effective 9 resistance(bad example, but you get the idea)

So it DOES effectively act as "magic penetration" by making magic attacks do more damage than someone with magic resist would have normally taken.

Abyssal is also more commonly taken for the purpose of doing more magic damage related to SPELLS while Wit's end is rarely taken but when WIt's end is taken it's main purpose is to add more attack speed and increase effectiveness of the on-hit steroids of the champ using it.

TotalJerkDec 25, 20171 votes

Situationally most on-hit heavy champions can build it, but only when two specific criteria are met:

You're against a magic heavy team
The enemy team probably wont buy much MR

Teemo Did 911Dec 25, 20171 votes

as a teemo main , i build it for fun when i have 150 kills ahead of everyone kappa

Meme God ShrekDec 25, 20171 votes

Don't forget Shen , it gives him magic resist, attack speed to increase dueling strength, and stealing magic protections both makes him even tankier and makes enemies take more damage from both the on-hit magic damage and his Q.

ChanRaDec 24, 20172 votes

They should just buff this item maybe add 10 more dmg to it

LordGeovanniDec 25, 20172 votes

If it had 300 health that could be a premier tank item and if it had 10 more magic resist along with the 300 health it would be a premier fighter item