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I feel "grievous wound" isn't an effective counter to what is meant to counter

RainbowIcee··1 votes·1,414 views

I've seen this issue for months but i can't say that it's an effective means of countering life steal atm. With the items and champions with a large sustain ( specifically now Rek sai ) I feel morello's and executioner need a form of buff to be more anti life steal effective. Earlier on As i was sona i had morello's on fighting along side a Zed vs a Rek Sai who was about 30% hp. While i initially engaged with W full chord combo ( I didn't have ult atm ) the zed followed up nicely to fight rek sai. Rek Sai came out of that fight with about 70% ish health when he killed zed and went after me.

One of the most popular counters to Life steal is the indirect means of Thornmail. But should items that apply this specifically designed counter to life steal/ regen / spellvamp me more effective ? or if anything noticeable ?

I think the % to be applied should be noticeably raised to pose an actual direct thread to let's say maybe dropping below 70%. It doesn't negate life steal also just reduces it so champions would still pose a larger survive ability.

7 Comments

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

If your opinion is valid or well-argued, you shouldn't have to spam multiple threads to try and get it across. Make one thread, wait a while and see if anyone is interested in discussing it.

CharQueen1 votes

It works perfectly fine for me. Especially Early Game. Grievous Wound makes their healing items turn to trash and forces them to back out of their lane early. I can then secure another wave clear before going shopping.

Lord Dusteon1 votes

First, changing GW to a higher percent makes some champions (Mundo comes to mind) extremely useless if they have any form of GW. As such, they'd have to buff Mundo (especially since morellonomicon is bought by almost everyone) to be useful even if they GW him. This would lead to champions being extremely overbearing without GW and balanced with (not good).

Second, the Rek'Sai had 3 dragons and 4 towers taken already, and had 3 entire completed items and boots to you and zed's 2. In addition, neither of you had any defence against Rek while she had 600 hp and ninja tabi (along with the level and item advantage).

Third, Rek'Sai had gone b and was presumably very near full hp at the time of your attack.

Blade of Justic1 votes

I feel the complete opposite.

I think the problem is the lack of grievous wounds items.

SmokingPuffin1 votes

No chance Morello's gets buffed. It's the best item in the game right now and needs nerfs.

Grievous Wounds is on its way out of the game anyway. It only stays because it's needed to counter a couple Mundos, erm, champions. Sooner or later they will rework all the Mundos and then we won't have a healing debuff on any items.

SloshMoney1 votes

I feel like there should be more GW items in my opinion... However it completely makes mundo and volibear pretty much crap considering volibear has to be super low to activate his healing and mundo's ult costs him a huge chunk of hp, plus all of his other spells cost a little bit.

I don't know if GW can cause Aatrox's passive to be useless but eh worth a shot in a custom.

Raptamei1 votes

Grievous wounds was added to make Soraka useless.

This was back when the sustain meta in bot lane was a thing.

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