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I AM SO F****KING SICK OF THIS META ON TOP LANE

buPPDrmXEO··5 votes·1,035 views

I am so GOD DAMN sick of this ridiculous meta

I am so GOD DAMN sick of all the passive gold players get

I am so GOD DAMN sick of doran shield

I am so GOD DAMN sick of ninja tabis

I am so GOD DAMN f***kin sick of bramble vest

I am so GOD DAMN SICK OF TANKS who feed you entire laning phase and then become unkillable

I AM SO GOD DAMN SICK OF JUNGLERS SMITING YOU AND BECOMING 20% TANKIER AS IF THEY EXHAUSTED YOU

GOD...

Top lane is dead

Teleport is BULLSHIT

Game is ruined, overall skill necessary to win a game has declined substantially and you as an individual matter 0 when despite you stomping your opponent he will build 2 tank items and become unkillable.

I love going 4-0 against a maokai and then watch him spam his mastery emote after he heals my entire combo with a single auto attack

PATHETIC

F*CK OFF, I'm UNINSTALLING this frustrating, bullshit watered down Dota 2, cya

TANKS ARE NOT FUN. THEY ONLY REMOVE GAMEPLAY ELEMENTS FROM THE GAME, THEY ADD NOTHING OF VALUE TO THE GAMEPLAY, THEY ARE UNSKILLED, WALKING FORTRESSES THAT ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO SHUT DOWN. THEY REMOVE LANING PHASE FROM THE GAME, THEY REMOVE STRATEGICAL IMPORTANCE OF THE EARLY GAME AND INDIVIDUAL'S SKILL DURING THE LANING.

REMOVE TANKS, NERF THEM, DELETE THEM

29 Comments

Elkington VI3 votes

I'm no pro, but the early game shouldn't decide everything, especially since some champions have a massive early advantage over others. Also, not all tanks are on Maokai's level and you shouldn't lump them all together that way. I will admit I'm a bit biased since I'm not particularly fond of the laning phase or early game stompers like Renekton, Darius, and Pantheon.

I would argue securing an early advantage is much easier now than it was in seasons long past, due to how prevalent snowballing has become and games being shorter. Your beef should be with bot lane rather than tanks honestly, because that tank you're beating 1v1 can still accommodate his adc much easier than a semi-fed Renekton can, which is only exacerbated the later the game goes. That's a Summoner's Rift problem that's never going to go away.

Warwick Main3 votes

Warwick Point and laugh boys.

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PopcornBunni1 votes

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Warwick Point and laugh boys.

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Warwick Main2 votes

Buff puppy 2k18 [sg-soraka]

PopcornBunni2 votes

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Buff puppy 2k18 [sg-soraka]

I don't even think she needs much. Just compensation buffs for the item 3068 item 3065 effective health reductions from the tank update. I did the math and it would mean +24 health at level 1, and +3 health per level, which are hardly radical changes to bring her back up.

AlienPrimate1 votes

I read this in Nunu bot.

Hexs Fortune2 votes

F*CK OFF, I'm UNINSTALLING this frustrating, bullshit watered down Dota 2, cya

Lol, go dota and play Axe the watered down Mundo.

Shuyin1781 votes

I would never think something is more watered down than Mundo. lol

Ok sure but why1 votes

Passive gold is okay, in fact we could some more of that to compensate for the ridiculously short games most of us experience every day

But yeah, those tank items are pretty busted. Every single item that's designed to make a champ do less damage and heal for less in return item 3075 item 3143 item 3110, and as soon as an ADC manages to actually KILL a tank, the boards go wild, call all ADC's OP and beg Riot will nerf them more. ADC's aren't allowed to do damage without the boards calling them broken. To them, a lane is only healthy if the support does all the burst damage in a quick succession, such as Zyra, Brand, Vel'Koz, Sona; even most of the tanks deal uncanny amounts of damage on their base stats alone. But no, when a support is able to keep an ADC from popping like a balloon to a TANK, they get nerfed, and when an ADC is able to deal any form of damage to a tank, they get nerfed as well! Yet all these Maokai and Yorick mains pretend that they "Need" extreme amount of damage from tank items to "Deal with CS." That's cute. Those busted tank items turn the enemy ADC into the true CS: big caster minions that deal no damage and pop extraordinarily quickly. Just how Riot wants it.

Bionic Jellyfish1 votes

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Passive gold is okay, in fact we could some more of that to compensate for the ridiculously short games most of us experience every day

But yeah, those tank items are pretty busted. Every single item that's designed to make a champ do less damage and heal for less in return item 3075 item 3143 item 3110, and as soon as an ADC manages to actually KILL a tank, the boards go wild, call all ADC's OP and beg Riot will nerf them more. ADC's aren't allowed to do damage without the boards calling them broken. To them, a lane is only healthy if the support does all the burst damage in a quick succession, such as Zyra, Brand, Vel'Koz, Sona; even most of the tanks deal uncanny amounts of damage on their base stats alone. But no, when a support is able to keep an ADC from popping like a balloon to a TANK, they get nerfed, and when an ADC is able to deal any form of damage to a tank, they get nerfed as well! Yet all these Maokai and Yorick mains pretend that they "Need" extreme amount of damage from tank items to "Deal with CS." That's cute. Those busted tank items turn the enemy ADC into the true CS: big caster minions that deal no damage and pop extraordinarily quickly. Just how Riot wants it.

but the adcs dont just burst down tanks, they burst down everyone else too.

Ok sure but why1 votes

At this point in the game, no. They slowly whittle down tanks whilst taking damage from their own attacks and healing less to compensate less from the trade-off. And if their support isn't crawling inside the ADC's asshole, they're gonna get bursted down long before they'll manage to get any damage off of their own. But oh no, if they manage to work as a DUO to 2v1 any other champion in the game, that's broken! It's only healthy when a top laner can 2v1 the ADC and her support, in the eyes of nearly everyone on these boards.

Bionic Jellyfish1 votes

According to Op.gg, you play a lot of renekton top. (stats pretty outdated tell me if im wrong) and of course that scenario is going to happen to renekton. he needs to stomp lane, then snowball the other lanes too. and you are right, laning phase is shorter now.

Evil Yasuo1 votes

Yeah I can't stand a tank 3 lvls below me being able to kill an assassin. I had 2 lethality items and black cleaver. He had frozen heart and ninja tabi. I kited him around even and just tried to stay away yet he ended up killing me.... It's retarded. Like people always say "well tanks beat assassins!!" yet the thing assassins supposedly counter can still kill them 'adc's'. I don't play top lane but that's the known lane for getting ganked. And everyone top plays a tank that just farms passively all game.

AlienPrimate2 votes

Your build is the problem. Armor is the direct counter to lethality. Lethality is absolutely useless against high amounts of armor.

Evil Yasuo1 votes

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Your build is the problem. Armor is the direct counter to lethality. Lethality is absolutely useless against high amounts of armor.

They should take the 'negating X amount of armor' away then. Guess there's only 1 item in the game then for penetrating armor, ldr.

Ralanr1 votes

Lethality isn't meant to be useful against armored targets but squishies and low armored targets. Having around 50 lethality can basically turn all your damage into true damage against an ADC.

AlienPrimate1 votes

This is simplist way to describe to you how lethality works. The way armor works, the more of it you have, the less effective it becomes. 100 armor is 50% dr, 200 is 66%, 300 is 75%, 400 is 80%. If you have 100 lethality against 100 armor, you reduce their resistance by 50% which doubles your damage. Reducing 200 armor to 100 only reduces their resistance by 16%.

Bothkinds1 votes

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Yeah I can't stand a tank 3 lvls below me being able to kill an assassin. I had 2 lethality items and black cleaver. He had frozen heart and ninja tabi. I kited him around even and just tried to stay away yet he ended up killing me.... It's retarded. Like people always say "well tanks beat assassins!!" yet the thing assassins supposedly counter can still kill them 'adc's'. I don't play top lane but that's the known lane for getting ganked. And everyone top plays a tank that just farms passively all game.

Uh.. as an ADC main I can tell you that I flat shit-meself when I see an assassin coming toward me. Win that fight 20% of the time and that's if I have mobilityCorki Ezreal Lucian and both sums summoner 4 summoner 7 with an insta cc support next to me.

Even then... it's not an enjoyable experience and should i'm still probably out of the fight even if i'm alive. HP >20%

Mathgodpi1 votes

item 1419 item 3153 item 3151 item 3036 say hi. And if that's not enough add these to the mix item 3091 item 3124

As for reducing the emphasis on laning phase, I'm glad it's happening. I find it rather lame when 90% of games are over by the 10 minute mark because one team won a last-hitting contest.

specter4241 votes

Personally I've never understood why tanks are better duelists than champs that itemize damage/lifesteal/crit/as. Yea you should survive longer but if you are just straight up hitting me like a mongoloid your shitty base damages and 40 damage aa's really shouldn't beat my investments in dps.

Ralanr1 votes

I am really curious on which tanks you mean. Because if it's Maokai, I honestly think he's dumb.

specter4241 votes

Its pretty much all of them. Here is how it generally goes for me top lane vs tanks -Pick Tryndamere

  • Enemy picks any tank
  • Kill them level 2 or 3
  • They play passive/get babysat until ninja tabi and bramble vest
  • Can't win trades against them afterwards

If you can't trade efficiently you can't force them out of lane to take the tower. You have to push and ignore them while chipping the tower and that leaves you way more vulnerable. The tank player doesn't have to put much thought into the game to win and its bullshit. Now of course other lanes may be stomping (unlikely) but that doesn't mean my time playing the game is any more enjoyable.

Quepha1 votes

do what boxerpete does: rush tiamat, cut the wave, make the enemy jungler's life hell.

Ralanr1 votes

Why would a tank want to duel you anyway?

PopcornBunni1 votes

How anyone can say tank builds are oppressive when a single item invalidates their entire build with nothing to counter it is beyond me

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Colgate Gator1 votes

Boy you wouldn't be happy with the HoG+Philo or the flask + pots metas.

Winters Dawn1 votes

Uninstal the game then. If you are that upset leave. No one will stop you

Shuyin1781 votes

Man you must be a blast to play with having this attitude.

I'd also like to point out that you complained about everything except what the problem with top lane specifically is. Tanks live in the jungle and bot lane too, so stereotyping them to top only is false information.

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