My stance on riven

Knight SoIaire ··3 votes·298 views

Riven is ballanced ... that is a fact than one side defends and they are right

but then comes the side of people who hate riven ... and they are also right just dont word it propertly

Riven is a ballanced champion but she is ballanced around 2 cases

case 1: riven gets ahead and abuses her snowballaing to compensate for her weaknesses of being suishy and meele ... in this case her enemies have very little in a way of stopping her besodes waiting for riven to make a big fail by herself

but even if riven dies in such situation due to her snowballing power she usualy stays ahead and stops enemies from capitalizing on it by killing someone before she dies

in case 1 riven has big chances of winning while her enemies need to get lucky to win

now there is a case 2: riven doesnt get ahead and gets behind instead ... since she relies on snowballing being behind means she is behind by much and her strenghts cant put up with her weaknesses so she gets rekt by most things she finds

in this case riven isnt likely to get back into the game ... nor she is likely to get farm and back into it

in this case its very likely riven will lose ... the only chance for her is for her team to carry her either by winning 4v5 or by creating easy situations for riven to get ahead or for enemies to make enough fails to get riven back into the game

in the end its qquite an equal game and riven is as likely to win as she is to lose

now those who defend riven are simply stating the fact that she is ballanced

while the only problem with her is the way she is ballanced ... its outdated

champions should be ballanced around their interactions with enemies ... so both the hard and easy matchups are determined to certain extent by skill instead of champions and junglers

this is the only problem of riven ... instead of putting most of her ballance in the skill of player ... she has it in her matchups

so when riven gets a goo matchup she almoust (almoust) guarenteed to have a good game where she is impactfull and strong and she is likely to win that game but when matchup isnt good she is almoust (almoust) guarenteed to be a minion with little impact and little chances of winning the game

people who defend riven should realy condemn this problem ... no champion should work that way ... its anti fun to know that you are going to suck already in champion select and to know that your champion will probably suck because you are a firstpick and your counters hurt you like hell

instead you should pick a champion and go to lanewith the knowledge that you can win it if you play better

2 Comments

Captain Aishi1 votes

the only counterplay non-assassin melee champions have against riven is to be too tanky for her to burst in a single spell rotation, which is hard considering how much she scales with AD (at level 6 her Q has 180% total AD scaling while her ult is active, and her basic attacks benefit from 156% of the AD items she has (15.6 AD per longsword is A LOT of damage that early on))

and that's all because she has two hard CCs in her kit making it so you can't fight back while she bursts you down, and if you survive it she has her shield to mitigate any attempt at retaliation. When you have a kit that has lots of CC and significant mobility and tankiness, having ridiculous damage on top of it just is problematic

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

id rather say that her shield got hit and thats what caused this

before shield nerfs riven was a champion who could become barely hurtable due to that shield

the thing is that the shield was the only thing that got hit ... if they would hit her shield a little and damage a little she could be more ballanced across all matchups where she doesnt just dominate the easy ones due to damage nerf and she doesnt get rekt by harder matchups due to still having a better shield than the one she currently has

in fact i think that all of the ballance areas riot needs to hit in order to make riven healthier is to move power beetwen shield and her damage while keeping the owerall power rahter similar

so riven still stays riven but kinda more bearable

there is a load of ways to push riven whenever you want without changing her much ... so riot will always have options

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