In 3 patches Zed has gone from a 37% ban rate, to a 50% ban rate

Dope Solo·Mar 24, 2019·12 votes·4,723 views

These Devs are just incapable of understanding cause and effect relationships.

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Sewer SideMar 24, 20193 votes

Zed is fine

Remember all the whiny fucks that came on here to complain LL Stylish stopped playing Zed for like 3 games a few months ago?

Z3SleeperMar 25, 20198 votes

I'm sorry did you look at the title? 50% ban rate isn't fine.

He gained buffs in compensation for his ultimate's AD reaping being removed, which was all totally fine by us. But now it's showing that the buffs might have been a bit too much. And that's when we go from "this is fine" to "this is not fine".

MankeyMadnessMar 25, 20196 votes

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I'm sorry did you look at the title? 50% ban rate isn't fine.

He gained buffs in compensation for his ultimate's AD reaping being removed, which was all totally fine by us. But now it's showing that the buffs might have been a bit too much. And that's when we go from "this is fine" to "this is not fine".

On one hand: Zed got overbuffed because his shitty mains cried it was a huge nerf when it obviously wasn't. On the other: Zed boasting a high ban rate either means Lethality is too strong again, or that other cancer (Zoe, Irelia, my own Wukong, VLADIMIR, Yasuo etc) are not as problematic as they've been.

He's always going to have excessive ban rates as long as he's untargetable for 2.5 seconds every minute and has 3 blinks and ranged poke.

Honestly trash Zed and put him in the jungle where - fun fact: His designer intended he would be in a good portion of his games

Z3SleeperMar 25, 20191 votes

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Honestly trash Zed and put him in the jungle where - fun fact: His designer intended he would be in a good portion of his games

He probably had a way different design at that point in his creation. Cuz I really can't see current Zed being a jungle champion even with some buffs to jungling.

Also his ult only makes him untargetable for 0.75s, not 2.5s.

Craft ZeppelinMar 25, 20192 votes

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On one hand: Zed got overbuffed because his shitty mains cried it was a huge nerf when it obviously wasn't. On the other: Zed boasting a high ban rate either means Lethality is too strong again, or that other cancer (Zoe, Irelia, my own Wukong, VLADIMIR, Yasuo etc) are not as problematic as they've been.

He's always going to have excessive ban rates as long as he's untargetable for 2.5 seconds every minute and has 3 blinks and ranged poke.

Honestly trash Zed and put him in the jungle where - fun fact: His designer intended he would be in a good portion of his games

Zed mains, the only people who would say its nerfs when it is clear as heck it is a buff.

Crescent DuskMar 25, 20194 votes

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Zed is fine

Remember all the whiny fucks that came on here to complain LL Stylish stopped playing Zed for like 3 games a few months ago?

Except he never did and with pre-buff Zed he made it to semi-finals in Twitch Rivals as the single fucking assassin champ to do so while the Katarina/Talon rank 1's couldn't even make it past the first round because they are not effectively AD mages like Zed is.

"Zed is fine".

Browse LL Stylish's latest game as Velkoz against Zaion's Zed, he dominates early laning phase and gets 2 solo kills on Velkoz, doesn't matter because Zaion can go split push to scale or press R on enemy bot lane and collect a free kill because that's what Zed's R does against any ADC who can at best have tabis by mid game while Zed has 2 lethality items.

And look at that, the 4/8 Zed goes to 20/8 Zed by the end of the game only needing WE auto to kill LL's Velkoz late game and only needing WEQ without R to kill the Shaco that was solo killing him at lv4.

Zed's damage scaling is r%%%%%ed for how safe and strong he is in early laning compared to other assassins. Katarina/Talon/Fizz's lanes are infinitely shittier and they don't scale anywhere near as well as Zed does.

Someone hourglasses Zed's ult and it doesn't even matter because his shuriken is only 6 sec cd base and zed always has CDR in his build, which means by late game the Zed has a full triple Q and E ready after someone comes out of hourglass and that's all he needs for a kill due to his scaling not making him R dependent like other assassins short of Ekko or a late game Fizz are.

SaiannaMar 25, 20193 votes

Oh they are.

Cause: Zed sells skins Effect: gets buffed/not nerfed Cause: players play (and ban) Zed more Effect: even more skins sold

AirKingNeoMar 25, 20193 votes

and 0% pickrate in competitive play while mages dominate the entire game..........

Crescent DuskMar 25, 20192 votes

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and 0% pickrate in competitive play while mages dominate the entire game..........

Artillery and assassin long range mages (Syndra/LB/Lissandra/Zoe virtually the only mages seen in LCS). No vlad, no swain, no annie, basically no mage with shorter range.

GayFluffyUnicornMar 25, 20192 votes

No vlad? Are u fuckin trolling right now?

Ah mb i'm on the boards. Ofc you are trolling.

"virtually the only mages"

Leaves out ryze, leaves out vlad, leaves out kennen. Or how about cassio or how about sylas (who would be picked if not banned for some whatever bug). Viktor is there too.

Oh how about karthus? Should i go on?

Literally most toplane matchups are mage vs mage and midlane the same. NOONE PICKS MAGES. THEY ARE SO WEAK. LOOK NO ANNIE IN PROPLAY.

Crescent DuskMar 25, 20192 votes

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No vlad? Are u fuckin trolling right now?

Ah mb i'm on the boards. Ofc you are trolling.

"virtually the only mages"

Leaves out ryze, leaves out vlad, leaves out kennen. Or how about cassio or how about sylas (who would be picked if not banned for some whatever bug). Viktor is there too.

Oh how about karthus? Should i go on?

Literally most toplane matchups are mage vs mage and midlane the same. NOONE PICKS MAGES. THEY ARE SO WEAK. LOOK NO ANNIE IN PROPLAY.

Vlad has not seen a single pick in current LCS. Top lane has been roughly Sion/Aatrox/Urgot/Poppy and midlane has virtually all been Lissandra/LB/Zoe/Syndra with the occasional Oriana.

Sylas is not a fucking mage; next you're gonna tell me Diana is some mage.

RequiemsfireMar 25, 20193 votes

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Vlad has not seen a single pick in current LCS. Top lane has been roughly Sion/Aatrox/Urgot/Poppy and midlane has virtually all been Lissandra/LB/Zoe/Syndra with the occasional Oriana.

Sylas is not a fucking mage; next you're gonna tell me Diana is some mage.

Please stop, you're actually using misinformation, You clearly don't watch the LCS, this split alone i've also seen Ryze, Cassieopia, Kennen, and yes I have seen Swain. Now stop arguing your point because its actually based on lies. Hell Bjergsen played ZIlean literally last night. Multiple pro teams in Korea and NA have definitely played vladimir. The fact that you make these claims and assert your own version of the facts without actually taking a minute to look it up and state this argument is complete and utter nonsense.

Exin0Mar 25, 20197 votes

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and 0% pickrate in competitive play while mages dominate the entire game..........

if you are talking about pro level competitive they play different game on different level with different aproach how to win and that is and always be utility they dont need more damage

qko pateMar 25, 20192 votes

Yeah blame the community for banning overpowered champs it always works out

BlåsigtMar 25, 20192 votes

Zed is fine. Dodge his skills shots and attack him on CD.

Daddy AntsMar 25, 20191 votes

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Zed is fine. Dodge his skills shots and attack him on CD.

Mage players expect to be able to rush Mana and still beat an ASSASSIN.

Dope SoloMar 27, 20191 votes

Zed has been welfare buffed into S tier for top and mid. That isn't 'fine'.