@Riot Karma's Gameplay VS The Reality & Developers Stubborness

Winterkill··4 votes·508 views

> Riot Reav3 > > Hey Hiemal, > > Sorry not trying to ignore you. I was just catching up on some of my old messages. > > The reason I haven't said much personally about Karma is that I haven't talked much with the design team about Karma so I don't want to misrepresent there thoughts on her. She currently isn't a high priority for ChampUp either so she doesn't come up a lot in conversations on out team. > > I can tell you my personal thoughts on Karma though. I think Karma is in a pretty good spot right now. Could she be improved? Sure. But there are many champions in a worse spot then Karma at the moment. At this point there are a lot of players that like new Karma just as there are players that preferred her pre-rework. We would really have to do a full VGU on her to make both parties happy. > > Currently she is in much better shape then a lot of other champions that need a VGU. She sees play in mid and support and has some unique things going on in her kit. > > This isn't to say that LGP will or won't do smaller work on her some day as I can't speak for that team. I can say that outside of her upcoming skin splash art update ChampUp doesn't have any plans for Karma in the near future. > > Probably not the answer you wanted to hear but I thought a answer was better then no answer.

Riot's stance is that Krama is in a great spot right now. A numbers buff determines whether or not a champion is in a good spot right now. A champion can have its entire identity stripped and replaced with the worst rework in League of Legends history, but still be considered in a "good spot right now". Countless number buffs that are added and then removed within a 4-month span over the course of 4 years, is proof that a champion is in a "good spot right now". Having an ability, E+R, already in the game as an item active means a champion is in a "good spot right now". Having a champion who used to be a mage and then have that entire identity stripped to being nothing more than a button mashing shield bot, is proof that a champion is in a "good spot right now". Actively not communicated with your Development team, not working on Karma for 4 years to address any problems or give temporary fixes, and not communicating with Karma players the entire time, is proof that a champion is in a "good spot right now".

Maybe Riot Games should reevaluate what they feel like being in a "good spot right now" on a champion is because it is not when Karma's primary role is a mage and her damage falls off after level six . . . and to be relevant in a match . . . I have to build shield enhancing items to increase the strength on my one ability I spam the entire game after level 6. You know . . . because my damage is non-existent now that I was basically reworked into a support and no longer a battlemage.

An orangutang of moderate intelligence can sit in front of a computer screen and hit two buttons on a keyboard . . . . and number balance a kit. That doesn't mean the kit is very good when the entire length of work you have done on the champion is pitiful. A numbers buff over the course of 4 years, that is later nerfed, is not an example of a champion being in a "good spot right now". It is an example of a Development team not caring about a champion for the past 4 years and using time and other champions as an excuse for not doing ANY compensation work done on her. You know you stripped her of her identity, gameplay as a mage, kit, theme, shield bomb, and much more . . . and what do you do? Buff the numbers on a kit that is not making her in a "good spot right now".

As always stay frosty.

  • Hiemal.

3 Comments

SilverSquid2 votes

I think with "she is in a good spot right now", he meant in terms of balance. He has no idea about what Karma used to be (what he admitted) and probably never worked on her himself, so he can't comment on her style and stuff. Because her identity is so lackluster that even he would have to admit that, seeing how honest he generally seems. So it appears to me he just doesn't know. And he doesn't seem to be in a job where he ought to know. Not even in the team....

I think we need to increase Riots awareness of Karmas issues instead of mocking single employees. Because stunningly enough, most of them simply don't know.

bobyboucher1 votes

shes in a good spot if your supporting with her....if your not supporting with her then that spot is like the wet spot on the bed after ...well you know....and no one wants to sleep in the wet spot!

Winterkill1 votes

Yep. It is alright to have other mages in our lane that do the job of a support better . . . . because you know . . . . . building shield and heal enhancing items are great right now.

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