Focus on Mini-VGU & Not on New Champions

Winterkill·4/24/2019, 7:44:16 AM·80 votes·18,772 views

There are 143 champions in the game right now and it will be 144 by the end of next month. Half of the current champion pool have outdated models and art, cannot compete in terms of unique gameplay and gameplay identities over new champions, and are being blatantly ignored for new champions. The more champions these Developers add into the game, means more work that is being purposely diverted from problematic champions players already do not like.

All champions Riot Game Developers have said the past 2 years that need a VGU. Corki DrMundo Amumu Blitzcrank Fiddlesticks Skarner Shyvana Volibear Tryndamere Udyr Chogath Shaco

Champions that received work done on them that didn't hit the mark and have received comments from Developers that they need further work done on a thematic, gameplay identity, kit and art level. Garen Karma Katarina Malzahar Quinn Skarner Vladimir

Champions that really only need a fresh coat of paint and modernization. Xin on here because they said they wanted to put him on a horse and he could use a visual update. Anivia Annie Ashe Teemo Veigar MonkeyKing XinZhao Zilean Lulu

Champions with recently released color stories, good lore, and in a trailer that they know needs very minor work done on them: MissFortune Ashe Volibear Varus


I mean what's the problem here? Why is anyone in this company even saying things like releasing more new champions over an actual work ethic that gives results? It's extremely disheartening to here a Riot Game employee tell the community that they regard new champions better than their existing champion pool that help put the game on the map. I mean for years this company and Developers have been saying every champion needs a VGU or mini-VGU. Why aren't Developers doing more Ezreal/Morgana sized updates over the reworks/VGU? A lot of these champions need a mini-VGU but all that time is being put on new champions. More new champions means less skins for existing champions, less conversations about existing champions, less work being done on existing champions, and so much more. Does this community care anymore? In the eyes of so many . . . this company and Developers can say and do no wrong.

Not every champion needs an Aatrox level rework/VGU when the problem could have been simply addressed by giving him an updated model, expanding his voice-lines, and working on MINOR things wrong with his kit. Stop with the new champions and the character re-imagining VGU that no one likes, when you have a current champion pool that needs a modernization with the new lore, updated models and art, and maybe minor work done on the kit. All of the described work I mentioned in this paragraph is a mini-VGU.

69 Comments

The Ecdysiast4/24/2019, 8:06:58 AM12 votes

That's probably what they're going to be doing. The roadmap did say they were going to bring the focus back to new champions, but that means we'll probably see a lot of VU's without (or with very few) gameplay changes, like Morgana.

Tesla Effect4/24/2019, 8:54:21 PM8 votes

Make Nidalee Nidalee Look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/6f/Nidalee_Human_Blood_01.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181205175956&format=original

Make Ashe Ashe look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/b/b8/Ashe_VU_3D_model_02.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170210205159

Make Annie Annie look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/0/04/Annie_Casual_Render.png/revision/latest?cb=20180424031114

Make Hecarim Hecarim look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/e/eb/Shadow_Isles_Hecarim.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190126161215

Make Thresh Thresh look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/3/39/Shadow_Isles_Thresh.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190126161128

Make JarvanIV Jarvan IV look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/1/1f/Demacia_Prince_Jarvan_IV.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181113024029

Make Ahri Ahri look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/f/f9/Ahri_New_Dawn_concept_1.png/revision/latest?cb=20161229081509

Make Blitzcrank Blitzcrank look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/5/53/Blitzcrank_TheClimb_concept_01.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180201010017

Make Riven Riven look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/9/9e/Riven_Awaken_Concept_01.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190129234854

Make Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/3/39/Fiddlesticks_cin_model_2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150607010717

Make Graves Graves look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/c/c0/Media_Concept_Graves.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140729161319

Make Tryndamere Tryndamere look like this:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/f/f0/Tryndamere_Concept.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121127094222

Garentheon4/24/2019, 8:25:41 AM8 votes

Volibear needs more than just minor work. They’ve expressed that

Whyte Lyon4/24/2019, 8:53:39 AM6 votes

I feel like Reav3's entire point has been lost on you. You're worried about nothing and demanding for something that is still happening. This thread is pure paranoia and misinterpretation.

DarkSoul19944/25/2019, 9:06:45 AM4 votes

Volibear needs 'very minor work' done on him? No. He's 100% Mordekaiser Tier. He needs a full Visual Update at the very least because his current model is a joke compared to how the lore describes him. He's a pretty shit champion in terms of gameplay - it's even more underwhelming now that his lore is so fucking good.

Jaspers4/24/2019, 9:11:35 AM4 votes

There are 4 champs who still refer to summoners in their voice overs. MF, Sona, Nocturne and I forget the other, guess they don't need updating.

And let's not forget nose for a head Malphite.

I understand they they are slowing down but seems some champs need something and not just new skins.

PaffWasTaken4/24/2019, 12:08:25 PM3 votes

Because of Volibear new lore, I believe he belongs in a whole VGU too, with getting something maybe lighter than some others but still getting a refreshing taste like Shen did.

The Avocado yo4/24/2019, 12:18:24 PM3 votes

every single one of these posts does not have Malphite

14daysuspensionk4/24/2019, 12:51:55 PM3 votes

Dorito hands Udyr lul.

ModRowanstar4/24/2019, 1:53:18 PM3 votes

I personally like the reimagining vgus because it gives a more modern more realistic take on a champ. sure some champs can just get new models but warwick and galio are 2 of my favorite vgus so far because they were reimagined.

RaedXray4/24/2019, 11:12:47 AM3 votes

Totally agree, hope this actually gets noticed by Riot.

I'm sick of hearing new champion ideas when I see kits like Neeko's, who's kit is clearly rehashed ideas like a delayed Amumu ult, a faster Lux Q pretty much and the three hit passive BS we keep seeing everywhere. So many champions feel like they don't belong anymore because of their kits and visuals, yet they've been given a blind eye for "new champions" with reused kits.

Dewott6104/24/2019, 9:45:40 AM3 votes

Don't forget reworking Ryze again /s

Blue Moon Wolf4/24/2019, 6:41:44 PM2 votes

I wish THIS is what they said they were doing. Not increasing the number of new champs, just doing more mini-VGUs over full reworks. But despite everyone saying "that is what they are doing", not a single Rioter has SAID that. At best they have said they aren't going to stop VGUs all together, which is far from saying they are going to be doing more mini-VGUs in place of VGUs.

Sadly the fact is Riot doesn't care anymore. They'd toss the rework decision to a popularity contest and spend more time adding more champs who, as you said, WILL be making the gap in champ skins even larger then it already is (aside from the few popular ones who STILL will manage to get skins on a yearly basis) and make the existing champs feel less and less special.

Riot completely forgot WHY they slowed down on new champs to begin with. Back when I started they had just slowed down on champ releases because they were too bland and never felt like they added anything to the game, only causing more problems. It's the reason WHY champs started to need reworked.

Burns Master4/25/2019, 5:59:47 AM2 votes

With the Volibear lore changes making him some sorta lovecraft type monster bear rather than a golden compass bear, he'd NEED a VGU, not minor tweaks. I hope he's a contender for the next VGU guarantee vote because thats where my money is at right now. First champion I got to m7, and now he's a bad joke of a champ.

Genghis Khat4/24/2019, 12:56:59 PM2 votes

Katarina doesnt need any work done to her? xd what are you talking about? she is literally fine right now all she needs is a nerf.

General Esdeath 4/24/2019, 10:49:43 PM2 votes

Because Riot's actual gameplay department is the biggest joke, I'd rather have EA in charge of reworking champs.

IronyAndSublime4/24/2019, 4:22:16 PM1 votes

How about balancing the game first?