can we get the option for surrender at 10min?

Surrender@10!

#SURREDER@MOTHERFUCKING10!!!!!!!!

If people are saying shit like this then the game got serious issues.

agree, on ARAM it's even worse, ARAM has always been snowbally I know but now I have games, OFTEN, where at the 7 minute mark the inhibitor is already down like come on, this is just stupid

Anytime I see an open mid now In high elo it's usually around 5 mins

lulxd

This preseason literally made comebacks next to impossible, so they might as well add a surrender@10. No point further delaying the inevitable.

Couldn't agree more. It was already arguable to have this option toward the end of the season. Now games are decided by the 5 minute mark and nexuses are falling before the option to surrender even comes up.

the new runes made the game ridiculously snowbally, if u had a 50% chance of coming back in the old system, it is 10% now. the game is falling apart, riot just doesn't know it yet :)

Just had 2 games in a row where we FF'd at 15 due to the snowbally nature of the game. It's impossible to come back after 1-2 kills, just runes + damage + lack of resistances make it really hard to eat up the damage if an enemy gets even 1 item in front of you, let alone 2.

Honestly I don’t even see the need for unanimous either, screw it if 1 person FF@10 they are so tilted it should just end the game.

Yeah when is 8/0 and is 6/0 by 10 minutes the game is pretty much over.

stop complaining every preseason is like this

I'm a chronic nay sayer to FFs when they appear to come from some kid who got his ass handed to him because he realized his Call of Duty sense of superiority didn't translate well into the game, and as a result, I'd rather see the game farther to establish a more valid need to FF or push to win.

However, what with this recent development, there are significant spikes in early game massacres and tower sieges that spell defeat legitimately long before the enemy reaches your front door, and as a result, I do think there needs to be a surrender option long before the 20 minute mark.

Champions are the moment are so snowbally, they can almost skip laning phase in entirety and drive a siege all the way down your mid or bot in the first 6-7 minutes flat, and can starve you of your own minions so badly you have zero chance of building items to "eventually" compete. It's over in many cases, as one or two people can only carry a team so hard in the face of the odds.

By the time the 20 minute ff appears, in many cases the game has BEEN over. No questions asked, no room for argument, no room even for a humorous "what if". It's been over. Period.

What about one minute

If you fall behind even a little the game is pretty much over. I'm currently awaiting nervously see if I'm going to get a 2 week sus for a 0/10 TF game where my lane opponent picked up 2 kills at 5 minutes then just became impossible to fight, and I was useless all game because, as other people have pointed out, catching back up after falling behind is now almost impossible. Seriously, either tone back the snowball effect and the fact your enemy laner can get 2 levels ahead of you if you miss a single wave cause you get ganked then you're entirely screwed, or legit add a 10 min ff so we can just get the stomp over with. This is the worst gameplay update for this game I've ever seen and it hurts to play.

TBH i want dawngate's deficit surrender

even better...first minion kill wins, then the BE system would make more sense aswell

Is there any way to report for negative attitude on the forums?